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There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM
For example, Semi could have simply been a bit pissed at her treatment- a tightening of her lips, a glint in her eye, but not her pathetic raving.

Or she could have not raved, and then later on she could have fended off Rand for a small amount of time, and tried to run away. Rand would have stalked after her, filled with the True Power. She'd be cowering in fear, and finally start to beg for her life since she knew Rand would use balefire. Then Rand would emotionlessly kill her.

Or she could have not been so idiotic as to try to trap Rand in the first place with almost no support.

Or Semi could have freaked out Cadsuane- that'd be believable, they're both feared figures, if Semi can break, theoretically so could Cadsuane.



And that's just the off-the-cuff ideas of a guy at 3am.

My point is saying that the Semi plot was good because it was "moral" and "logical" is ridiculous. The first is completely irrelevant considering the grand scope of the series, and the second is just wrong.
I amuse myself.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3248 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1735 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1652 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 758 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1443 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1349 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 638 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1446 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1402 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1343 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1306 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1418 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1240 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1223 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 690 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1243 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1223 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1179 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1325 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1417 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1258 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1310 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 613 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1327 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1187 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1289 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1188 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1277 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1161 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1313 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1315 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1474 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 679 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1387 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 725 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1266 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1266 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1328 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1264 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1251 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1227 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1303 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1254 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1289 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1205 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1313 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1154 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1183 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1292 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1193 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1173 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1146 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1251 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 1049 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1313 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 675 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1287 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1360 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1201 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 669 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1389 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 774 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1483 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1202 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1208 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1218 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1131 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1156 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1199 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1303 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1324 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1256 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1268 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1272 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1281 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1329 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1158 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1209 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1192 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1220 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 9002 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1206 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1284 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1540 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1130 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1282 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1298 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1237 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1547 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1245 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1059 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1380 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1192 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1427 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1248 Views
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