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There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM
For example, Semi could have simply been a bit pissed at her treatment- a tightening of her lips, a glint in her eye, but not her pathetic raving.

Or she could have not raved, and then later on she could have fended off Rand for a small amount of time, and tried to run away. Rand would have stalked after her, filled with the True Power. She'd be cowering in fear, and finally start to beg for her life since she knew Rand would use balefire. Then Rand would emotionlessly kill her.

Or she could have not been so idiotic as to try to trap Rand in the first place with almost no support.

Or Semi could have freaked out Cadsuane- that'd be believable, they're both feared figures, if Semi can break, theoretically so could Cadsuane.



And that's just the off-the-cuff ideas of a guy at 3am.

My point is saying that the Semi plot was good because it was "moral" and "logical" is ridiculous. The first is completely irrelevant considering the grand scope of the series, and the second is just wrong.
I amuse myself.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3164 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1647 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1565 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 721 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1359 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1269 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 600 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1367 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1331 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1270 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1233 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1318 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1166 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1140 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 651 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1155 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1143 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1105 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1254 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1335 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1183 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1234 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 578 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1244 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1123 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1210 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1118 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1194 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1090 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1241 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1228 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1390 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 649 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1313 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 692 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1191 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1183 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1249 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1193 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1177 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1153 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1215 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1169 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1208 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1123 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1239 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1081 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1102 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1212 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1120 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1099 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1076 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1167 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 975 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1233 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 638 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1213 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1287 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1116 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 635 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1306 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 734 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1341 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1123 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1134 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1140 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1051 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1089 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1119 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1229 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1256 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1176 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1180 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1194 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1196 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1244 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1077 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1126 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1105 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1136 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8608 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1126 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1195 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1453 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1058 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1207 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1214 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1150 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1468 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1165 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 991 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1294 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1126 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1350 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1177 Views
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