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I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM
Rahvin and Sammael had control of vastly more powerful nations, and this did not seem to earn them any special rewards.

I don't know - if Demandred has been spending all of his time putting order to Murandy, I just don't think his time would have been as well spent as it would have been if he brought the Seanchan from across the ocean, the Ayyad from across the continent or untold legions from unknown parts of the world.

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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1348 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 724 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 762 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 686 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 968 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 692 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 710 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 723 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 318 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 346 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 313 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 665 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 641 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 710 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 650 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 748 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 689 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 695 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 765 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 667 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 735 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 647 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 638 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 680 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 647 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 655 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 855 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 713 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 692 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 646 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 660 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 676 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 303 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 662 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 319 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 315 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 655 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 652 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 649 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 643 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 612 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 731 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 665 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 560 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 629 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 644 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 1051 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 659 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 662 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 690 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 674 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 617 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 655 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 776 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 618 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 660 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 597 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 661 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 274 Views
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