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Well... Etzel Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM
Obviously Demandred doesn't want to give away where he is in front of Graendal. Therefore he is pretty close-lipped.

But in my view his words: "My rule is secure. I gather for war. We will be ready", would perfectly fit the idea that Demandred controls Roedran, who is building an army in the hearts of the Westlands.

As said, Bryne points out that a united Murandy could bring up a considerable number of men. Even if Murandy might be a little smaller than other countries, it doesn't mean that it's less powerful, if you read the quotes I gathered from all over the series.

Take e.g. Germany. It's certainly a smaller country if you compare it to big African countries, but I would say it has more importance. The question is not only the size of a country, but how many people live there, how advanced are they, etc. . A smaller country might be even more effective, since the ways are shorter. Plus, the location of Murandy makes it strategically very interesting.

It also fits better with RJ's comment on the Forsaken's power bases, since he said that all Forsaken want worldly power. Just controlling Taim & his 100 cronies is rather pitiful, IMO, especially considering that the BT spawned several hundred more Asha'man, who serve Rand.

Besides that, you seem to assume that it is most important to deliver channelers for the Shadow. But from all what we know it seems more important to cause chaos and usurp nations so that the Westlands aren't united at TG (especially after BS indicated that the DO has a gigantic Shadowspawn army anyway).
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1210 Views
But it's still a small country - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 624 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 627 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 576 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 845 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 585 Views
to confirm you - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 598 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 598 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 260 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 272 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 254 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 546 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 525 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 551 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 609 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 576 Views
Of course.. - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 548 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 601 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 556 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 621 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 539 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 521 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 569 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 523 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 538 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 704 Views
Well... - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 571 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 567 Views
It is insignificant. - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 526 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 542 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 557 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 252 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 536 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 253 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 267 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 522 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 530 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 528 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 513 Views
He doesn't? - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 497 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 555 Views
Surely you jest. - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 458 Views
Re: Surely you jest. - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 517 Views
Well that depends. - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 526 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 923 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 540 Views
But that is exactly... - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 537 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 584 Views
Honestly, at this point - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 539 Views
In my view... - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 522 Views
Re: In my view... - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 530 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 629 Views
I think... - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 507 Views
You're right - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 545 Views
Interesting. - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 483 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 525 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 223 Views

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