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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
And for example Lanfear and Asmo were also quite nomadic, just causing chaos. We also don't know what Balthamel or Aginor had done, if they hadn't been killed.


Graendal had a base of operations in AD, but she obviously had her fingers in other areas (ala Shara) ...

Semirhage and Mesaana are similar cases in that they seemed to have been assigned a task.

IMO Demandred was likely running around in various areas stirring up whatever chaos he could. I'd say he had a hand in the Dragon Sworn and possibly could have had a hand in the Borderlanders defection.

Contrary to Sidious' thought, IMO, the Dragon Sworn were a scourge for over half the series! The entire Southwest region of the continent has been swarming with them since tGH... destabilizing Ghealdan, Tarabon, Almoth Plain Arad Domon, and to a lesser degree Murrandy, Altara and Amadicia.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1298 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 686 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 713 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 645 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 919 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 659 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 672 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 681 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 297 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 321 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 287 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 620 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 597 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 661 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 610 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 698 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 647 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 652 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 716 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 623 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 693 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 604 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 598 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 633 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 605 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 615 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 803 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 670 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 646 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 605 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 611 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 626 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 281 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 615 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 296 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 297 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 612 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 599 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 611 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 604 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 559 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 686 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 626 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 522 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 582 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 598 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 1004 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 615 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 622 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 647 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 622 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 587 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 605 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 725 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 572 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 618 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 562 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 615 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 251 Views
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