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Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM
Rahvin and Sammael had control of vastly more powerful nations, and this did not seem to earn them any special rewards.

I don't know - if Demandred has been spending all of his time putting order to Murandy, I just don't think his time would have been as well spent as it would have been if he brought the Seanchan from across the ocean, the Ayyad from across the continent or untold legions from unknown parts of the world.



Who are just as likely to flip to the light if forced to fight next to Trollocs and Fades?

Seems like the more human armies you marshal the more you increase the odds that your enemies will have armed and trained soldiers.

I think if Demandred is working with human armies someplace, he's likely doing it to destabilize an area or at least set it up to be in a really bad spot when the real armies of the Shadow appear.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1387 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 755 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 794 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 721 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 1008 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 728 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 754 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 765 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 335 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 371 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 334 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 707 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 677 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 745 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 689 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 781 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 725 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 731 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 825 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 704 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 775 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 686 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 675 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 712 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 685 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 691 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 891 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 748 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 733 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 686 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 696 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 711 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 328 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 697 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 341 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 335 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 691 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 688 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 684 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 679 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 663 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 766 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 700 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 606 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 665 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 678 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 1104 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 698 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 693 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 726 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 711 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 650 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 691 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 818 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 652 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 692 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 636 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 692 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 296 Views
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