RJ came up with this "elegant" and quick way to get rid of the clever Graendal by Rand's use of brute force. I really don't see what the point would be, if Graendal somehow managed to survive, is still around and Rand has to come up with an even better idea to outsmart Graendal. Seems like a pointless twist, which further burdens the plot.
I tend to agree, which is why I think it's more likely that she's dead.
Graendal's PoV in the prologue also wasn't redundant, because it gave us e.g. more clues about Moridin's plans and situation. It also explains why Graendal didn't dare to immediately flee from Arad Doman, when Rand arrived. She had to stay and make contact with him eventually.
Agree with the first part - that's what I was trying to say, essentially. As for the second ... I don't think Moridin's instructions meant she had to stay in AD. He didn't say she had to involve herself directly, only that he wanted certain things to happen to Rand. She could have accomplished that by ordering DFs or Compelling other people, from just about anywhere. I doubt she'd ever have risked direct contact with Rand.
BS indicated as well that Graendal is dead by saying that she will just be mentioned a few times in ToM, and that ToM will make it clear, if she is dead.
Hmmm ... just because she'll only be mentioned a few times doesn't mean she's dead. We know ToM will mostly focus on Mat & Perrin (and Elayne?), so I wouldn't expect Graendal to play much of a role in ToM even if she were alive.
Besides this, Semirhage's and Elza's ter'angreal bracelets remained, when Rand hit them with balefire on the chest. Considering this one wonders, if Graendal's angreal was even balefired, since Rand just aimed at the palace.
Presumably, the balefire stream Rand used to kill Semirhage & Elza was narrow - narrow enough that it only hit them, not the bracelets. Whereas, the balefire stream Rand used to destroy the palace was HUGELY WIDE - wide enough to wipe out the entire palace and everything in it, presumably. I don't have the book in front of me, but I recall that it was said that there was nothing left where the palace had been standing.
Rise and fall, turn the Wheel,
'cause all life is
is really just a circle.
-BHT&tM
'cause all life is
is really just a circle.
-BHT&tM
Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?)
- 05/01/2010 05:44:12 PM
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- 05/01/2010 06:46:19 PM
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Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?)
- 05/01/2010 07:15:41 PM
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Nynaeve's boat...
- 05/01/2010 07:23:57 PM
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Good point ...
- 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM
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I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads.
- 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM
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Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads.
- 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM
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Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads.
- 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM
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There is another way...
- 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM
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Nope
- 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM
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USe Occam's Razor yourself...
- 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM
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and why didn't she invert any of the weaves?
- 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM
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Maybe you cannot invert compulsion?
- 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM
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so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little
- 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM
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Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted?
- 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM
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She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM*
- 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM
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Clearly dead
- 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM
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Re: Clearly dead
- 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM
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I think she's alive.
- 06/01/2010 06:12:50 PM
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Compulsion is rather useless isn't it?
- 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM
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It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer
- 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM
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perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves!
- 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM
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Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves!
- 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM
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