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Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM
Egwene's only dilemma regarding power is how much of it she can get and how fast. She never has a moment where she considers that another might be more suitable (for example, the Gray that organised the Tower during the attack, rather than running off leading novices into danger).


I don't really get how you can say this since most of her character arc was thinking that she was needed in her position because there were no suitable leaders in the White Tower, so whereas before she was trying to watch her back while being set up by the Rebels, by the end of her trials and tribulations in the Tower, she really did believe that if necessary, she would gladly be Stilled and executed if it meant the Tower could have a better leader than she. It's this belief that enabled her to transcend her increasingly harsh punishments.
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2708 Views
My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 07:58:01 AM 1226 Views
Re: My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are. orius - 14/02/2010 09:26:47 AM 1029 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 869 Views
What? We are no longer allowed to make predictions of the coming books unless they're pro-Egwene? Lordling - 14/02/2010 02:22:10 PM 977 Views
a theory vs. mindlessly attacking a character because you don't like them? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 07:00:27 PM 958 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 958 Views
We all do that darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1025 Views
Is Egwene going to do what Elayne did when she met Rand after tearing down his banners? Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:25:27 AM 1133 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 819 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1119 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 945 Views
Yes she did. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1160 Views
No way these are fake... she's not BA and she she says she's having a Foretelling darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:24:29 PM 998 Views
Good point. And the "rent in fire and blood" part is almost certain as well. Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:13:29 PM 760 Views
Take a sedative Sidious - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 998 Views
somethings we can agree on! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 974 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 965 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 975 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 1002 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 891 Views
Re: Not really Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 902 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 1013 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 953 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 910 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 1001 Views
Well said. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1032 Views
Re: Well said. Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 862 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 798 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 955 Views
how is that a good comparrison? darius_sedai - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 807 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? Lord Haart - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1289 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 998 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 964 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? fionwe1987 - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 1027 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 941 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. fionwe1987 - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1042 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 804 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 905 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 867 Views
Same old same old Sidious - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 891 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 657 Views
Re: Same old same old orius - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 1017 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 909 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 899 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 922 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 917 Views
are you being serious? darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 879 Views
Re: are you being serious? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 984 Views
Oh, I don't think so. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 864 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 961 Views
Re: None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping orius - 15/02/2010 05:08:49 AM 936 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 867 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1117 Views
this is hilarious darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 884 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:31:26 PM 995 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1152 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 545 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 964 Views
darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1017 Views
Re: Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 890 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 850 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 915 Views
You need a re-read my friend darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 911 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:48:51 PM 1043 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 1000 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 956 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 983 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene Gerbeaud - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 916 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene BlackAdder - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 864 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 981 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then BlackAdder - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 817 Views
I don't think so darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 848 Views
Re: I don't think so Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 945 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 869 Views
I understood little sister to be a mild insult, Moiraine being so young and weak in the OP *NM* Lordling - 16/02/2010 08:25:55 PM 641 Views
maybe a touch patronizing? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 12:51:25 PM 516 Views
Appears to be, but his thought process implies it's not as simple as him merely looking down on her. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/02/2010 05:07:19 PM 482 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand Yondaime - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1087 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand lilltempest - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 987 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. Great Lord of Chaos - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 961 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 890 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. Great Lord of Chaos - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 842 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 843 Views
and a massive failure Sidious - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 987 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 770 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 598 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 811 Views
But that's the point Cannoli - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 886 Views
Not quite. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 894 Views
Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 09:23:47 PM 825 Views
When has she ever actually done that? Rand thinks she will, but so far she's done nothing like it! darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 02:08:23 AM 935 Views
I meant that EVERYONE is bargaining, posturing, etc. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 02:54:29 AM 845 Views
Well miscommunication is one of the major themes of the series darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:17:25 PM 842 Views
the most idiotic theme IMO Sidious - 16/02/2010 03:27:26 PM 922 Views
I don't know if the theme itself is idoitic, but I would totally agree that it's gone nowhere! darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 03:16:30 AM 814 Views
Re: Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise Gerbeaud - 18/02/2010 01:19:00 AM 886 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 970 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. lilltempest - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 985 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. Lordling - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 981 Views
Well, all those beatings were in private BlackAdder - 16/02/2010 07:54:00 PM 897 Views
That was the point of the scene in front of the Sitters during the banquet. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 23/02/2010 06:58:50 PM 593 Views
Oh the one where Elaida tried to have her way with Egwene while the Sitters looked away? *NM* BlackAdder - 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM 614 Views
Yes. Elaida wanted Egwene to be cowed in front of her into obedience, which would erode her support RugbyPlayingAshaman - 23/02/2010 10:18:03 PM 941 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 922 Views
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