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A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid Send a noteboard - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
Brilliant theory (Bob's), and you put a nice point on it.

But I have one question about the hallway.

Rand killed Rahvin with Balefire. Enough balefire to remove everything Rahvin did for some time (like killing Mat). Even effects on objects gets removed (like the Darkhound's on Mats door when Rand BF'ed them).

Rand ducked Rahvin's balefire in the hallway. When Rand kills Rahvin, the damage to the hallway should be gone, since it happened after Mat was killed. But it isn't. Which seems impossible to me.

The balefire damage must be Rand's, since it is still there. Rahvin's would be gone. And Rand didn't duck his own balefire.

Ergo, 3 and 7 aren't in the same place.Which doesn't necessarily disprove any part of the theory, just the map.

Seems intuitively obvious to me, unless I am misremembering the Rahvin encounter, or the balefire rules.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1861 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 655 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 678 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 759 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 538 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 782 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 607 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 253 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 469 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 506 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 537 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 541 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 517 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 528 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 522 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 473 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 508 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 513 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 495 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 546 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 554 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 523 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 509 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 533 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 530 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 501 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 510 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 542 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 489 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 521 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 493 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 536 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 257 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 572 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 503 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 470 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 457 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 592 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 238 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 506 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 511 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 520 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 504 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 489 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 594 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 507 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 496 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 250 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 489 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 522 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 505 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 443 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 444 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 467 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 461 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 485 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 463 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 464 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 493 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 466 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 458 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 468 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 546 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 448 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 479 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 456 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 468 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 214 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 462 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 211 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 464 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 479 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 523 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 228 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 202 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 486 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 453 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 511 Views
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