The DO can't bring Asmo back, and knows of his death in some way, despite the black cord being cut in tSR. The DO either (a) was told by someone/-thing, or (b) will always learn that people are dead, whether or not it's in time to capture their soul.
I think people are making a really huge assumption here. There are three obvious answers to why Asmodean gets the "final death" according to the Dark One.1. He COULD bring Asmodean back, but he's not going to tell Demandred, because he wants Demandred and the rest too scared to try betraying him. If he brings back Asmodean, and fits him for a mindtrap, it is still a second chance, and he does not want the Forsaken thinking they can get second chances for betraying him.
2. The cutting of the black wires might have interfered, though I thought RJ might have addressed that issue.
3. The Dark One could, but does not want to bring him back! Asmodean betrayed him and worked for the Dragon Reborn. Why does he want to give this character another chance? Note that he never says he cannot save Asmodean. He seemingly regrets his inability to get Rahvin back, but only mentions Rahvin. He never expresses regret at being unable to grab Asmodean, suggesting either that he does not care about his inability to get him or that he COULD get him but simply did not care to, and therefore had nothing to regret.
The only reason I could think why the Dark One would want to bring Asmodean back would be to torture him for his betrayal, but RJ's assertion that he doesn't care about chastisement so long as he gets what he wants from his minions would seem to undermine that idea. Why would he go through that trouble to punish a mere flea like Asmodean for his ineffectual betrayal? Sure he might give traitors a really gruesome punishment as an object lesson, but IMO that would lose some of its impact when they see a stranger being tortured, even if they mentally accept that it is Asmodean brought back.
Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson
- 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM
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The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is...
- 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM
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So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway?
- 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM
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I think Slayer spied on Asmo
- 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM
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I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM
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Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM
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Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
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In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM*
- 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM
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As far as I'm concerned...
- 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
- 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
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Correction...
- 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM
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So, basically...
- 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM
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The clues are there?
- 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM
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Re: The clues are there?
- 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM
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He wasn't being insulting, I don't think.
- 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM
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well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
- 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
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Apparently...
- 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM
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No it isn't.
- 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
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You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM
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Re: You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
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Both merged into one being
- 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM
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Not what I asked.
- 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM
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If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM
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Re: If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM
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That Basel Gill comparison just silly...
- 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM
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I've asked you only one question, repeatedly.
- 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM
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Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues...
- 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM
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You have never provided anything even resembling evidence.
- 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM
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Dude
- 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM
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You know what's really embarrassing?
- 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
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One last time...
- 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM
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Egwene did it though
- 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM
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Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't.
- 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM*
- 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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But we don't actually see that
- 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM
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But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense.
- 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM
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by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle
- 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM
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A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM
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First rule of balefire:
- 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM
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Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does!
- 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM
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On the servants theory
- 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM
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Rand's odd wounds
- 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM
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RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds.
- 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM
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Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to?
- 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM
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RJ said that. *NM*
- 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM
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@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R...
- 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM
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Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM
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Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM
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