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Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher Send a noteboard - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM
Brilliant theory (Bob's), and you put a nice point on it.

But I have one question about the hallway.

Rand killed Rahvin with Balefire. Enough balefire to remove everything Rahvin did for some time (like killing Mat). Even effects on objects gets removed (like the Darkhound's on Mats door when Rand BF'ed them).

Rand ducked Rahvin's balefire in the hallway. When Rand kills Rahvin, the damage to the hallway should be gone, since it happened after Mat was killed. But it isn't. Which seems impossible to me.

The balefire damage must be Rand's, since it is still there. Rahvin's would be gone. And Rand didn't duck his own balefire.

Ergo, 3 and 7 aren't in the same place.Which doesn't necessarily disprove any part of the theory, just the map.

Seems intuitively obvious to me, unless I am misremembering the Rahvin encounter, or the balefire rules.


As I understand balefire rules, balefire cannot undo balefire. So no matter how hard you balefire someone, you can't undo the damage they've done with balefire, even if you can undo the non-balefire damage they've done.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 2053 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 843 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 879 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 1002 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 718 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 994 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 823 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 356 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 608 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 706 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 738 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 752 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 719 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 722 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 721 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 645 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 689 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 720 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 688 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 779 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 802 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 744 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 699 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 730 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 737 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 696 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 697 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 753 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 667 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 718 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 678 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 739 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 339 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 737 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 695 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 649 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 628 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 793 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 340 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 696 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 719 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 713 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 695 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 663 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 799 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 697 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 698 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 351 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 690 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 774 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 715 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 603 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 634 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 659 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 659 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 707 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 669 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 650 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 702 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 655 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 632 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 638 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 749 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 642 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 650 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 651 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 642 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 317 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 669 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 309 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 675 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 657 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 699 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 330 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 313 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 706 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 647 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 713 Views
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