well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
I very much doubt RJ was being serious in that quote either, he later says that most people have guessed wrong, and also that the 'intuitively obvious' was something one of his professors used to say about things thatw ere not obvious at all. I suspect that quote was intended to be ironic, and I would not suspect Etzel of being deliberately insulting like that (I've argued with him before, after all). But I've asked this question before and don't recall getting an answer.
The problem is not that Slayer hid in Emond's Field, but that Etzel assumes we should know that Slayer can travel through the Dreamworld, as we later learn he does. However, when Perrin fights Slayer in the Dreamworld, they are both outside the Two Rivers, beyond the Tarendrelle, and Perrin shoots Slayer and he disappears. Now, with the assumption that Slayer jumps in and out of the Dreamworld in the flesh, he should have reappeared at that very spot in the real world. But he didn't, he reappeared where he had been sleeping in Emond's Field, just like a Dreamwalker, or Perrin himself.
My guess is that Slayer is very dedicated to his evil activities and would tough it out in Emond's Field for as long as he could. He would've felt safe because he can choose (presumably only when he goes from TaR to the real world or vice versa) whether his face and body are Luc or Isam. Also, Perrin was the only guy in the whole Two Rivers who was antagonistic or suspicious of him. That's a lot of buffer for an arrogant guy. Remember, he has Lan's and Rand's bloodlines in him, and he's EVIL; that's a lot of arrogance for anyone...
The problem is not that Slayer hid in Emond's Field, but that Etzel assumes we should know that Slayer can travel through the Dreamworld, as we later learn he does. However, when Perrin fights Slayer in the Dreamworld, they are both outside the Two Rivers, beyond the Tarendrelle, and Perrin shoots Slayer and he disappears. Now, with the assumption that Slayer jumps in and out of the Dreamworld in the flesh, he should have reappeared at that very spot in the real world. But he didn't, he reappeared where he had been sleeping in Emond's Field, just like a Dreamwalker, or Perrin himself.
Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson
- 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM
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The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is...
- 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM
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So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway?
- 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM
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I think Slayer spied on Asmo
- 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM
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I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM
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Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM
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Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
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In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM*
- 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM
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As far as I'm concerned...
- 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
- 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
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Correction...
- 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM
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So, basically...
- 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM
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The clues are there?
- 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM
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Re: The clues are there?
- 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM
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He wasn't being insulting, I don't think.
- 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM
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well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
- 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
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Apparently...
- 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM
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No it isn't.
- 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
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You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM
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Re: You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
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Both merged into one being
- 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM
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Not what I asked.
- 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM
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If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM
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Re: If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM
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That Basel Gill comparison just silly...
- 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM
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I've asked you only one question, repeatedly.
- 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM
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Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues...
- 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM
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You have never provided anything even resembling evidence.
- 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM
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Dude
- 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM
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You know what's really embarrassing?
- 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
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One last time...
- 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM
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Egwene did it though
- 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM
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Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't.
- 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM*
- 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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But we don't actually see that
- 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM
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But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense.
- 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM
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by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle
- 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM
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A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM
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First rule of balefire:
- 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM
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Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does!
- 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM
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On the servants theory
- 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM
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Rand's odd wounds
- 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM
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RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds.
- 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM
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Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to?
- 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM
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RJ said that. *NM*
- 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM
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@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R...
- 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM
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Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM
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Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM
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