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No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
Ever considered pointing them out instead of just insinuating that I am an idiot? Why did Slayer decide to return to Emond's Field to flee from Perrin? Did he just want to give Perrin a fair chance to catch him?


Luc wasn't that badly wounded. Perhaps he wanted to save his belongings and soon after he fled entered TAR again.

Of course, this scene shows that Isam & Luc are indeed basically the same person; and since Hopper says that Slayer is in TAR in the flesh, it's clear that Slayer doesn't enter TAR like a Dreamwalker, but rather like a channeler who makes making a Gateway to TAR. We know that the DO also gave other minions abilities similar to those normally only channelers have, e.g. the Gray Men a disguise.


All it shows is that Slayer is there in the flesh, it certainly doesn't mean he travels there via Gateway. As I said, it seems far more reasonable to deduce that Luc is always in the real world, and Isam is always in the Dreamworld 'in the flesh', since we had not at that point seen that he had the ability to choose. There is no evidence in this book that Slayer can travel through real space via the Dreamworld, and there is evidence against it. It is therefore absurd to assume that he could do this in order to kill Asmodean.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1977 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 751 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 804 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 910 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 632 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 915 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 729 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 304 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 560 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 613 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 649 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 665 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 632 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 634 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 641 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 571 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 602 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 635 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 620 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 675 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 709 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 649 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 609 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 640 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 656 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 602 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 619 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 655 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 590 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 620 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 600 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 649 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 296 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 664 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 599 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 565 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 547 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 699 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 287 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 615 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 633 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 637 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 611 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 588 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 716 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 599 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 614 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 299 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 604 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 690 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 624 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 524 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 549 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 563 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 583 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 616 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 574 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 572 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 611 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 564 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 557 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 562 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 657 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 542 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 570 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 565 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 561 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 267 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 577 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 260 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 584 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 583 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 615 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 281 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 255 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 606 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 562 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 626 Views
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