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Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
That there are two ways to enter TAR, either in the sleep or in the flesh. From Hopper we learn that Slayer enters TAR in the flesh due to the DO's powers. Since Luc and Isam are the same person, this person enters TAR in the flesh. There is nothing to support your idea at this time that Luc was basically a Dreamwalker, but Isam's ghost (?) was in TAR "in the flesh". And again, your idea was proven wrong, but you still insist that everybody should have come up with your explanation, how Slayer uses TAR.

There are also other hints, for example it's said in TSR that Fain's Myrddraal fears that Isam might "find" him. This suggests as well that Slayer's job is to hunt, find and kill renegades of the Shadow, apparently using TAR in the flesh to travel (since Myrddraal don't dream).

Besides that, as I pointed out, it's certainly possible to link Slayer to the murder of the BA in TSR (the book where Slayer was introduced as a character), because he is obviously a assassin resource of the Shadow better than a normal Gray Man, as Moiraine puts it. And then you could also deduce that he likely killed the Gray Man in the WT as well.


Nonsense. For one thing, Luc and Isam are clearly not the same person. Luc is a noble of the royal Mantear House of Andor who travelled to the Blight to confront his fate, Isam is a Malkieri lord who was caught by the Shadow as a child. One of these two people are dead.

But back to the point at hand, provide one piece of evidence that Slayer could travel through the real world by using Tel'aran'rhiod before Asmodean's murder. You have tried to equate this with being present 'in the flesh' but that is unfounded, especially given the evidence that he was sleeping in Emond's Field during their battle.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 2088 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 874 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 915 Views
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Fair enough.... - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 1023 Views
I think... - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 866 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 373 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 621 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 736 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 789 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 788 Views
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 759 Views
Correction... - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 673 Views
So, basically... - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 729 Views
The clues are there? - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 762 Views
Re: The clues are there? - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 731 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 818 Views
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Apparently... - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 773 Views
No it isn't. - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 735 Views
You don't understand... - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 765 Views
Re: You don't understand... - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 772 Views
Re: You don't understand... - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 734 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 738 Views
Both merged into one being - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 811 Views
Not what I asked. - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 702 Views
If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 759 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 708 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 771 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 356 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 781 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 731 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 693 Views
Dude - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 672 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 824 Views
be nice *NM* - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 365 Views
One last time... - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 733 Views
Re: One last time... - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 755 Views
No... - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 749 Views
Re: No... - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 734 Views
So... - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 699 Views
Re: So... - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 841 Views
Egwene did it though - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 728 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 743 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 374 Views
But we don't actually see that - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 728 Views
Hmm. True, that. - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 650 Views
I see what you are saying now - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 662 Views
Yep - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 694 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 697 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 754 Views
First rule of balefire: - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 709 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 739 Views
On the servants theory - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 686 Views
Rand's odd wounds - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 678 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 780 Views
RJ said that. *NM* - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 682 Views
Do you have that quote handy? - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 692 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 694 Views
Here: - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 680 Views
thanks! good job *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 337 Views
You dont address all the criteria - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 715 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 332 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 718 Views
Exactly my point. - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 708 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 733 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 354 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 330 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 742 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 688 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 737 Views

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