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You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
Luc and Slayer are one being created/merged by the DO, Slayer enters TAR "in the flesh" (contrary to "in the dream" ), it makes sense that he can enter TAR in the flesh from everywhere in the Real World, consequently it also only makes sense that he can leave TAR at every place & return into the Real World (especially if he is an assassin, as e.g. the stanza about Slayer in the Dark Prophecy implies), this would actually also explain the strange assassination in the Stone and the WT, which apparently weren't done by a mere Gray Man, or why Fain's Myrddraal fears that much that Slayer will find it. It's a bit embarrassing that you still can't even grasp those simple basics, although I explained them several times.


That you somehow think that by repeating the same irrelevant inanities over and over again, I'll forget what my argument is and just concede from confusion. I've only asked you one thing, which was to provide any reason to believe that Slayer could travel from point to point in the real world by jumping through Tel'aran'rhiod. Why you insist on repeating 'Slayer is an assassin! Slayer is an assassin! Slayer is an assassin!' is quite beyond me. I assumed you knew this already, but 'being able to teleport' is not a defining characteristic of an assassin. You know this, right?

And as I said last post, you revert to being in Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh (not entering in the flesh, mind you, that was never demonstrated) is somehow indicative of the ability to travel from point to point in the real world to it. You know, just because you can randomly jump to conclusions doesn't mean that in any way makes those conclusions reasonable. Especially when there is evidence against that conclusion.

I give you that probably only the deleted scene in TSR about Slayer's powers, which BS mentioned recently, would have made this blatantly obvious to many readers at that time . But as RJ said, he trusted that generally his readers are reasonable intelligent to deduce things and don't have to be told that water is wet.


Exactly. Which is why Basel Gill killed Asmodean. You see, he is actually a very powerful Shadow channeler (I know there is no evidence to support this, but you don't need to be told that water is wet, do you?) and wanted to kill Asmodean to take his place among the Forsaken (not knowing that Forsaken ranking doesn't work that way). I know he's shown to be with Morgase at the time, but that was just an illusion so people wouldn't suspect him. He's an assassin, you know?
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 2051 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 840 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 878 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 1002 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 717 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 994 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 820 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 356 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 608 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 703 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 738 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 749 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 716 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 718 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 721 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 643 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 686 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 719 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 687 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 778 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 800 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 743 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 695 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 728 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 735 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 696 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 695 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 751 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 665 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 718 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 676 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 738 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 339 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 734 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 691 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 645 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 627 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 791 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 340 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 691 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 715 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 713 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 694 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 661 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 794 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 693 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 697 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 351 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 686 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 772 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 714 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 603 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 633 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 655 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 655 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 704 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 667 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 647 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 699 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 653 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 632 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 635 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 746 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 639 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 648 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 650 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 642 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 317 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 666 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 309 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 675 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 654 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 699 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 329 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 312 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 705 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 644 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 708 Views
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