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Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM
Evidence that Slayer cannot travel from one point in the real world to another by passing through the world of dreams: When attempting to flee Perrin, rather than exiting the Dreamworld beyond the Tarendrelle, where he was and where he would be out of Perrin's reach, he instead returns to the spot where he supposedly fell asleep, where Perrin is and where he is surrounded by Perrin's men. This implies he did not have a choice where he would reappear in the real world.

Where did this happen (i.e., what book/chapter?)

If this is from tSR, IIRC, Perrin shot him in the chest and Slayer woke up and rode off from the camp, clutching his chest. I don't think he had time to change where he was (that requires lots of concentration in T'A'R, even from Egwene). I don't think he had entered T'A'R in the flesh if he woke up in Perrin's camp (which he did). I think he was just dreaming in that case?


Precisely. Which is why at that point (that is, until we get to meet Slayer again in Winter's Heart) we must reasonably conclude that Slayer is a Dreamer/Dreamwalker with some special powers due to his merging of two people. (As I mentioned elsewhere, at that time I thought this meant that Luc lived and Isam died, and that Isam was therefore bound to Tel'aran'rhiod as the Heroes of the Horn are.)

As for evidence that it can be done, I believe Egwene has used T'A'R to travel to different places, no?


Yes, in Lord of Chaos.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1727 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 509 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 521 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 517 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 403 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 538 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 459 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 187 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 327 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 357 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 389 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 396 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 374 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 383 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 375 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 357 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 361 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 378 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 347 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 396 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 401 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 374 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 358 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 390 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 390 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 351 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 367 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 394 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 331 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 385 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 345 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 390 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 196 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 427 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 354 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 336 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 321 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 439 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 181 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 356 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 359 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 340 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 390 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 349 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 449 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 353 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 342 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 193 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 346 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 364 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 343 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 307 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 313 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 325 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 315 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 322 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 325 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 302 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 341 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 323 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 305 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 319 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 403 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 302 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 328 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 312 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 325 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 154 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 324 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 150 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 323 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 336 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 369 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 167 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 143 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 348 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 324 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 369 Views
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