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As Katie said, the husband is still around. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM
I agree. I wonder whether the other female death eaters are under Voldemort's spell in the same way as Bellatrix. Could there be some way in which it is acceptable for them to act as something outside their position as women based on some sort of obsession cult around Voldemort? I am speculating wildly now, in an attempt to make sense of the apparent contradiction. Or is there a married woman/unmarried aspect? Bellatrix was married, but what happened to her husband? Did he get killed?

He may well resent his wife being only interested in Voldemort, but if he does he's smart enough not to make that public. And nah, I think Bellatrix is a special case there. I figure the sexism is just not entirely consistent - women taking active roles is frowned upon, but not unheard of. And Narcissa's presence at the meeting may be more because she's the host than because she takes an active role as a Death Eater.
It is written later, but I still think there was an element of the Grand Tour up until the first world war. Although less fixed in form.

Okay.
You mean that the lack of a fluffy set of happy memories which has been Dudley's cushion all his life was such a shock it make him catatonic on its own, without any particularly bad memory to cause it?

I mean that you seem overly fixated on the unhappy memories aspect of the Dementors. For Harry the memories of his parents' death is of course the worst part of a Dementor attack, but even if someone had no unhappy memories at all, such an attack would be traumatic - the cold, the feeling of helplessness, the feeling that there is nothing good in the world anymore.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 3718 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1593 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 1746 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 1727 Views
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This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 1620 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 888 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 1757 Views
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all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 1650 Views
Re: all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:57:09 PM 1728 Views
It's not as boring as I thought it was. - 06/12/2010 10:52:17 PM 1582 Views
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Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1754 Views
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Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:44:36 PM 1886 Views
Re: Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:53:25 PM 1773 Views
I always forget Bellatrix is married. - 26/11/2010 03:28:24 AM 2076 Views
As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 1810 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 11:12:18 AM 1782 Views
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Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 06/12/2010 08:41:56 PM 1704 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 1821 Views
Correction - 25/11/2010 12:38:57 AM 1720 Views
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The epigraphs. - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 1805 Views
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other stuff - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1569 Views
I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 25/11/2010 04:26:58 PM 1581 Views
Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 1659 Views
Isn't it "the dear departed" and "dearly beloved"? *NM* - 26/11/2010 11:32:22 PM 841 Views
Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1537 Views
Chapters 4-6: The Seven Potters, The Fallen Warrior, The Ghoul in Pyjamas *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:27:53 PM 848 Views
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Re: the film & Hermione - 26/11/2010 08:38:05 PM 1557 Views
Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 1674 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 01:24:40 AM 1620 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 12:01:19 PM 1559 Views
Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 1607 Views
The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:01:35 PM 1604 Views
Re: The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:23:33 PM 1532 Views
The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 1576 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 1899 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 1771 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 1573 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 1996 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 1667 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 836 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 1606 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 1591 Views
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Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 1675 Views
Chapters 7-9: The Will of Albus Dumbledore, The Wedding, A Place to Hide - 29/11/2010 06:39:52 PM 1545 Views
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Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 29/11/2010 06:56:31 PM 1742 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1617 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 1588 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 1764 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1543 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 1663 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1626 Views
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I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 1690 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 859 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 1677 Views
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IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:06:23 PM 1824 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 801 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 851 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 892 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 1675 Views
Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1546 Views
And back in book 4. Dumbledore sends Hagrid a message like this - 01/12/2010 08:33:46 PM 1617 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 1643 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 1647 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 1679 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 1580 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 845 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Muggle-Born Registration Commission, The Thief, The Goblin's Revenge *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:01:25 AM 997 Views
Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 1821 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 881 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 1676 Views
Good catch - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1534 Views
Chapters 16-18: Godric's Hollow, Bathilda's Secret, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore - 06/12/2010 09:57:00 PM 1657 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 1758 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 1796 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 1862 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 1946 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 1642 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 1669 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 1942 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1528 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1585 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1543 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1548 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1599 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 823 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1648 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1773 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1597 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1611 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1298 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 855 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 1698 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 903 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 1788 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 1815 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 1685 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 1893 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 1720 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 1646 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1639 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 1646 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1597 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 1625 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1690 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 826 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1766 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1649 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1644 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1622 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1603 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1798 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1348 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 821 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1543 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1750 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 833 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1556 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 873 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 1855 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 1678 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1711 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1720 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1589 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 1656 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 1703 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 837 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1571 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 821 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1513 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1743 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1770 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 1952 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1685 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 729 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1594 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1578 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1611 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1507 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1528 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1614 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 833 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1717 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 864 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 802 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 1868 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1643 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 1957 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1721 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1821 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1624 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 821 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1692 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1682 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 1862 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 840 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1650 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1607 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1661 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1538 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 1872 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1716 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1655 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2029 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1686 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1446 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1773 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1653 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1624 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1771 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 752 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1546 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1551 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1566 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1712 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1789 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1801 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1552 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1684 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1602 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1664 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 1961 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1709 Views

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