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Seconded. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM
Voldemort being like Hitler in some ways (vastly untrusting, and megalomaniacal).

I don't think Voldemort's character is that much like Hitler - not like the historical Hitler, anyway, who by all accounts could be quite charming when he wanted to be, and had a fair rhetorical talent. Then again, the same is true for Tom Riddle before he went as far to the Dark Side as he did... and Hitler at the end of the war wasn't the Hitler of the early thirties either. Okay, you might have a point on second thought.
The Ministry of Magic in this book and the connection with Nazi Germany.

Definitely this. Not only is it a bit of a lack of imagination, but it's also fairly tasteless. Imitating the Nürnberger laws was really beyond the pale. And shame on the movie makers for those red bands around the arms, as well.
And then there's the goblins with the incredibly negative stereotype of Jews as moneylenders and bankers.

I thought of that too.
I dislike this side of the books intensely.

Yeah. It's a typical example the way Hitler and the Nazis have essentially replaced the devil as ultimate evil, since most people don't believe in the devil anymore. But either way it's cheap and deplorable.
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Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2520 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1297 Views
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I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 2493 Views
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As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2151 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2736 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2576 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2523 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2506 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2474 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2552 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2503 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1260 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2612 Views
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Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2573 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2432 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2468 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2599 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2217 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1238 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2397 Views
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Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1253 Views
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Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1306 Views
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On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2535 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2570 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2446 Views
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Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2578 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1281 Views
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Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1242 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 2409 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2610 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2667 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2832 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2562 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1168 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2453 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2433 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2465 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2357 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2372 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2451 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1281 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2542 Views
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Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1222 Views
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Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2498 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2815 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2532 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2726 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2466 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1270 Views
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Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2743 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1281 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2500 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2465 Views
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Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 2390 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2756 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2642 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2529 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2877 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2538 Views
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Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2602 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2520 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2497 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2612 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1181 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2353 Views
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Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2453 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2569 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2678 Views
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Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2414 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2540 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2523 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2500 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2816 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2534 Views

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