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Re: Slow down - it may not be the current elites that are hyping it..... DomA Send a noteboard - 13/03/2012 03:10:12 AM
.....it is surely was past elites that did.


Not sure which elites you are referring to.

The painting is of some importance to Art historians for sure, because it's a landmark in technique and aesthetics. The painting (that DaVinci gave to François 1er) was also of great influence during the French Renaissance. It remains a Da Vinci so like all his works scholars have also long been interested in its history, and it is one of the first portraits to have used perspective and a "live" background (thus its influence on the renaissance painters).

That's nothing to do with its fame, though. That all began with its theft and recovery in the early 20th century. It's only with that and after that that it became world-famous, attracting way too much attention from non specialist and turning in the public's eye into this greatest of all masterpieces, which is way exagerated, especially since the size of the painting make it far from impressive in a museum. The art elites have longed mocked the popular obsession with the Mona Lisa.
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Brandon Sanderson plans 36 books in his 'Cosmere' setting Werthead - 19/02/2012 11:45:24 AM 4580 Views
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A modern Moorcock, eh ? *NM* Orange - 19/02/2012 05:39:00 PM 603 Views
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Well, but he is a "fluff" writer from a literary standpoint Tom - 20/02/2012 02:16:11 AM 1335 Views
Not a fluff writer in my mind..... Anonymous2000 - 20/02/2012 03:12:46 AM 1275 Views
You don't seem to want to hear what I'm saying Tom - 20/02/2012 03:51:13 AM 1242 Views
And I am saying that storytelling is more important..... Anonymous2000 - 20/02/2012 04:52:39 AM 1373 Views
Storytelling is crucial... DomA - 20/02/2012 05:59:57 AM 1360 Views
A few comments/replies about your post..... Anonymous2000 - 20/02/2012 02:57:16 PM 1300 Views
You are correct in one respect: all of this is opinion. Tom - 20/02/2012 07:01:11 PM 1283 Views
You sound like one of those nasty "literary elites"! Anonymous2000 - 20/02/2012 08:07:13 PM 1229 Views
Literature is subjective cortez1 - 21/02/2012 12:26:35 AM 1313 Views
Very well said..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 01:12:40 AM 568 Views
I agree with your point about reading Shakespeare from textbooks. Tom - 21/02/2012 03:18:37 AM 1346 Views
Never heard of Thomas Mann and the real Mona Lisa..... Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 03:34:12 AM 1195 Views
Conversely, why should I trust the likes of you? Larry - 21/02/2012 06:19:18 AM 1435 Views
Oh, come now... fionwe1987 - 21/02/2012 10:35:18 AM 1361 Views
When it comes to evaluating schema, I'm not going to trust someone who only had English 101 Larry - 21/02/2012 11:26:03 AM 1161 Views
Mostly agreed cortez1 - 21/02/2012 09:00:51 PM 1241 Views
Mostly true Larry - 21/02/2012 09:27:09 PM 1277 Views
Re: Mostly true cortez1 - 22/02/2012 12:58:55 AM 1114 Views
Larry = snob Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 05:34:22 PM 1224 Views
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Wow, you lack basic reading comprehension skills..... Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 08:29:24 PM 1196 Views
No, I read that and didn't disagree that there couldn't be works that had both (read other comments) Larry - 21/02/2012 09:23:31 PM 1309 Views
See I think the word "entertaining" is misleading cortez1 - 21/02/2012 09:31:59 PM 1220 Views
Uh...Faust is a play. Doctor Faustus is a novel. The former is Goethe, the latter is Mann. *NM* Tom - 22/02/2012 12:00:22 AM 606 Views
D'uh.....notice the smiley face. Good grief! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 22/02/2012 12:50:23 AM 605 Views
Just checking... *NM* Tom - 22/02/2012 01:07:40 AM 552 Views
I suppose fame is relative, but the most famous Doctor Faustus, to me personally, is indeed a play. Legolas - 22/02/2012 07:29:59 PM 1120 Views
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Wait, let's look at the gross disconnect between two statements. Tom - 21/02/2012 01:59:34 PM 1328 Views
I have not blindly rejected the literary elites..... Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 05:27:35 PM 1293 Views
So true about the Mona Lisa. Legolas - 21/02/2012 07:57:41 PM 1349 Views
Yes, I was at the Louvre and you are right..... Anonymous2000 - 21/02/2012 08:32:40 PM 1225 Views
This is where your own rethoric defeats you... DomA - 23/02/2012 06:38:54 AM 1208 Views
Slow down - it may not be the current elites that are hyping it..... Anonymous2000 - 23/02/2012 05:12:47 PM 1059 Views
Re: Slow down - it may not be the current elites that are hyping it..... DomA - 13/03/2012 03:10:12 AM 1284 Views
There's "subjective", and there's "lack of education" DomA - 21/02/2012 08:58:11 PM 1238 Views
Re: There's "subjective", and there's "lack of education" cortez1 - 21/02/2012 09:23:38 PM 1386 Views
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