I have good news and bad...
First the bad..you are correct there will be many more nations and people but really that is good as it expands the scope mightily and some of them are truly interesting.
Now the good Daenarys grows to be much stronger in the book (not the series) and really does become a powerful leader even without magic..at one point SHE decides to remove the magic for the good of her "people" in fact. As well the fire side MOST DEFINITELY gets an evil counter part for the ice oh yes...just wait...the scene in season 2 where *edited* was SOO disturbing. I have always thought the only good characters in the whole piece were killed in the first book...the starks even go arguably "bad" in later books.
As for the historical parallels they are not very tight but still interesting and more possibly come later (with Arya) and though Arya is to some extent "saved" it is because of things she did and she quickly starts saving herself and others (while remaining a realistic kid who makes quick nonthought out kid decisions) the book however does a much better job with her than the series. I will be interested to see what you think of the later books.
First the bad..you are correct there will be many more nations and people but really that is good as it expands the scope mightily and some of them are truly interesting.
Now the good Daenarys grows to be much stronger in the book (not the series) and really does become a powerful leader even without magic..at one point SHE decides to remove the magic for the good of her "people" in fact. As well the fire side MOST DEFINITELY gets an evil counter part for the ice oh yes...just wait...the scene in season 2 where *edited* was SOO disturbing. I have always thought the only good characters in the whole piece were killed in the first book...the starks even go arguably "bad" in later books.
As for the historical parallels they are not very tight but still interesting and more possibly come later (with Arya) and though Arya is to some extent "saved" it is because of things she did and she quickly starts saving herself and others (while remaining a realistic kid who makes quick nonthought out kid decisions) the book however does a much better job with her than the series. I will be interested to see what you think of the later books.
A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin
13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM
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Fascinating.
13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM
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On the Rape issue....
14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM
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Re: On the Rape issue....
14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM
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Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels,
14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM
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Camilla is indeed a she.
14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM
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Re: On the Rape issue....
14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM
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How is that a violent rape? At worst it would be statutory rape.
17/08/2012 11:53:44 AM
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The wedding night is statutory. I would describe the later rapes as fairly violent.
17/08/2012 12:13:26 PM
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That was her only sex scene, until she induces him to have outdoor sex to get pregnant
17/08/2012 07:20:09 PM
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It is not necessary to provide a scene
17/08/2012 10:49:20 PM
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I believe that what is happening here is called confirmation bias *NM*
21/08/2012 06:23:38 PM
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Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin
14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM
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I think you misread one part
14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM
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I think that the Rhaegar and Lyanna stuff does look like rape in the first book
14/08/2012 08:10:27 PM
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"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"?
17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM
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what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit...
15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM
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Re: what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit...
15/08/2012 07:39:24 AM
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philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting
16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM
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Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV?
16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM
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I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast...
16/08/2012 11:52:40 PM
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Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast...
17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM
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I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better
17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM
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Re: I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better
17/08/2012 06:40:12 AM
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I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain
17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM
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I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent
17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM
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A perpetrator-less crime then.
17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM
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Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli.
18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM
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You are missing the point.
18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM
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The later books do add more context and change some of this
19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM
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Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy.
19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM
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Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM*
19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM
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Nonsense.
19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM
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Fixed it for you.
19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM
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Oh, but that takes us back to snoop being right, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot abide that.
19/08/2012 10:56:10 PM
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Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM*
20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM
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Gosh, this is really turning into something fun.
20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM
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Here I was about to make a "whee misogyny" post. I never get to have fun.
*NM*
20/08/2012 09:09:04 AM
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Huh. I just came to the odd realization...
20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM
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Don't lock it!
21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM
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Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already.
21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM
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That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read
01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM
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I forgot that I was supposed to read all threads to watch out for Bad Behaviour.
01/09/2012 11:09:52 PM
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