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I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM
(Sorry, Tom.)

I'm currently rereading WoT, so I'm definitely in the "light fantasy for pleasure" crowd. But I also am very sick and tired of posts that consist of nothing more than "I JUST READ THE DRESDEN FILES OH MY GOD HARRY DRESDEN IS SO COOL !!!" The problem is that while light fantasy is wonderful to read, it typically makes for really bad discussion. And, as Tom has pointed out (okay, we'll drag him back in for a moment), it ultimately leaves a person wanting for something significantly substantial.

That doesn't mean that we should all stop reading WoT and the Dresden Files (although maybe a little bit more thought than "OMG COOL" or "WTF SUCKS" should go into posts on these topics); it simply means that there are a lot of people on the board who want to have conversations of substance about substantial things. And yes, irritation occurs when books like The Count of Monte Cristo get chosen, especially when the people who choose it don't contribute in depth to discussion on it.

And besides, what Camilla said in Tom's original post about all of this is marvellously true: "We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel

*MySmiley*

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The Count of Monte Cristo was a terrible choice for a book discussion. - 09/01/2010 07:41:01 PM 1715 Views
Hey, now (copy/paste) - 09/01/2010 07:48:56 PM 1257 Views
People should think about these things before recommending books. - 09/01/2010 08:13:10 PM 1311 Views
Which is why I voted for Bulgakov's M & M. - 09/01/2010 10:56:00 PM 1343 Views
Agreed. Madame Bovary is serious literature. - 10/01/2010 01:02:34 AM 1176 Views
Are you nuts!!?? - 10/01/2010 08:37:47 AM 1433 Views
I wanted to do that too. - 10/01/2010 01:24:42 AM 1097 Views
It's bloody marvellous. *NM* - 10/01/2010 08:05:47 AM 535 Views
Our next discussions will have preselected options. - 10/01/2010 01:00:59 AM 1281 Views
I heartily support the move from democracy to oligarchy! - 10/01/2010 01:04:13 AM 1241 Views
I agree. - 10/01/2010 08:01:33 AM 1168 Views
I disagree slightly - 09/01/2010 09:07:12 PM 1162 Views
Well, by that standard a Jackie Collins novel is worthy of debate. - 10/01/2010 01:08:04 AM 1209 Views
I think you misunderstand my intent - 10/01/2010 01:10:57 AM 1251 Views
You poopyhead! - 10/01/2010 01:19:11 AM 1314 Views
Oh, I almost forgot - 10/01/2010 01:11:50 AM 1194 Views
Ooh...I'd love to hear them!!! What did Eco say to trash Dumas? *NM* - 10/01/2010 01:19:43 AM 476 Views
Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 10/01/2010 01:39:28 AM 1275 Views
I love it. Strangely enough, though, he wrote an introduction to the book. - 10/01/2010 01:54:24 AM 1146 Views
Not really strange as Eco has long been fascinated by this book - 11/01/2010 05:01:56 PM 1144 Views
Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:12:55 PM 1057 Views
Re: Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:52:29 PM 1409 Views
I like Eco's distinction between light fiction and literature. - 12/01/2010 04:16:38 PM 1270 Views
Re: Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 11/01/2010 03:49:15 PM 1309 Views
That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 05:12:25 PM 1059 Views
Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM 1371 Views
I agree that abridging it would not work well. - 12/01/2010 04:06:26 PM 1253 Views
In which case... - 12/01/2010 05:22:34 PM 1037 Views
Yes - 13/01/2010 07:56:08 PM 1316 Views
Not really. - 15/01/2010 01:18:10 PM 1481 Views
I think there are plenty of things that can be discussed. - 09/01/2010 10:00:06 PM 1409 Views
Discussed and put to rest in 5 minutes or less, perhaps. - 10/01/2010 01:17:02 AM 1268 Views
Depends on who you are, one would imagine. - 10/01/2010 08:16:11 AM 1304 Views
<pretentious>Well, why should we cater to the lowest common denominator? - 11/01/2010 02:17:03 AM 1215 Views
Heh. - 11/01/2010 07:49:47 AM 1119 Views
I'd laugh... - 11/01/2010 07:21:38 PM 1005 Views
Tom is the primary reason I want an ignore feature again. - 12/01/2010 02:17:29 AM 1051 Views
I'm glad to hear that. *NM* - 12/01/2010 04:17:30 PM 491 Views
And so you've reached this decision about Tom... - 18/01/2010 10:10:44 PM 1231 Views
I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion. - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM 1326 Views
It's frustrating though... - 12/01/2010 04:18:37 AM 1302 Views
I think if you posted that (or something like it) people would reply to it. - 12/01/2010 05:08:53 AM 1302 Views
Perhaps. - 12/01/2010 05:26:38 AM 1013 Views
Given the people who have read the Kushiel books, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. - 12/01/2010 05:58:33 AM 1065 Views
I was mostly just giving an example. - 12/01/2010 06:14:04 AM 1177 Views
You're not. - 12/01/2010 02:16:09 PM 1120 Views
Her next series sounds interesting - 12/01/2010 02:20:17 PM 995 Views
It does, but the reviews I've seen aren't too enthusiastic. - 12/01/2010 02:29:26 PM 1055 Views
Yes, but how so? - 12/01/2010 02:39:59 PM 1127 Views
Well... - 13/01/2010 07:03:08 PM 1218 Views
Honestly... - 13/01/2010 07:51:14 PM 1217 Views
Absolutely. - 14/01/2010 12:55:00 PM 1352 Views
Re: Absolutely. - 14/01/2010 01:57:47 PM 1141 Views
ah i didn't realize it was already out - 13/01/2010 11:44:53 PM 1003 Views
'tis. - 14/01/2010 12:56:11 PM 1384 Views
I really don't think it would. - 12/01/2010 07:49:32 AM 1205 Views
I have tried before. - 12/01/2010 01:59:24 PM 1093 Views
That's bullshit - 12/01/2010 11:12:55 PM 1250 Views
True, true. - 16/01/2010 08:54:16 AM 956 Views
Luckily for you... - 16/01/2010 08:59:23 AM 1347 Views
Re: "Omigod you read light fantasy?" - 18/01/2010 10:04:41 PM 1403 Views
Har. *NM* - 18/01/2010 10:03:31 PM 653 Views
I'm quite enjoying it. - 09/01/2010 10:40:30 PM 1229 Views
A kid's book of adventure doesn't translate into a good book club discussion. - 10/01/2010 01:21:11 AM 1103 Views
I have to agree - 11/01/2010 12:36:55 AM 1227 Views
How did you find deeper meaning (pun intended) in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? *NM* - 11/01/2010 02:17:55 AM 486 Views
It was half bullshit, you must understand - 11/01/2010 03:59:42 PM 1095 Views
Come on, there is lovely tragedy there... - 13/01/2010 07:32:49 PM 1052 Views
I am pleased to be referenced in a cross-board discussion. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:29:45 PM 604 Views

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