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I think if you posted that (or something like it) people would reply to it. Darth_Katie Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 05:08:53 AM
because there are things to discuss in "pleasure" fantasy. No, you can't spend hours dicussing them, but there are themes, there is depth. But when you're scoffed at for even presenting it, it totally shuts you down.

For example, one of my favorite books to talk about is Kushiel's Legacy. I really like the version of our world she created. I really like discussing the implications on history, cultural development, and how different tiny plot bits she drops here and there contribute to the big picture (in all respects).

But I would never open such a thread here. Why? Because it would either be ignored or scoffed at.


I've never read any of Carey's stuff ... but those kinds of discussions (implications on history, cultural development, plot devices, narrative techniques, etc etc) are ones I like, and I'm willing to be that a lot of other people would participate too. There are very clearly a lot of people who frequent this board who are intelligent fantasy fans. And anyway, you never know until you try. :)
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The Count of Monte Cristo was a terrible choice for a book discussion. Tom - 09/01/2010 07:41:01 PM 1882 Views
Hey, now (copy/paste) Camilla - 09/01/2010 07:48:56 PM 1404 Views
People should think about these things before recommending books. Tom - 09/01/2010 08:13:10 PM 1472 Views
Which is why I voted for Bulgakov's M & M. The Shrike - 09/01/2010 10:56:00 PM 1475 Views
Agreed. Madame Bovary is serious literature. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:02:34 AM 1327 Views
Are you nuts!!?? Milla - 10/01/2010 08:37:47 AM 1616 Views
I wanted to do that too. Ghavrel - 10/01/2010 01:24:42 AM 1254 Views
It's bloody marvellous. *NM* Rebekah - 10/01/2010 08:05:47 AM 621 Views
Our next discussions will have preselected options. Jacob - 10/01/2010 01:00:59 AM 1433 Views
I heartily support the move from democracy to oligarchy! Tom - 10/01/2010 01:04:13 AM 1370 Views
I agree. Rebekah - 10/01/2010 08:01:33 AM 1316 Views
I disagree slightly Larry - 09/01/2010 09:07:12 PM 1307 Views
Well, by that standard a Jackie Collins novel is worthy of debate. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:08:04 AM 1368 Views
I think you misunderstand my intent Larry - 10/01/2010 01:10:57 AM 1404 Views
You poopyhead! Tom - 10/01/2010 01:19:11 AM 1481 Views
Oh, I almost forgot Larry - 10/01/2010 01:11:50 AM 1328 Views
Ooh...I'd love to hear them!!! What did Eco say to trash Dumas? *NM* Tom - 10/01/2010 01:19:43 AM 544 Views
Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen Larry - 10/01/2010 01:39:28 AM 1429 Views
I love it. Strangely enough, though, he wrote an introduction to the book. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:54:24 AM 1285 Views
Not really strange as Eco has long been fascinated by this book DomA - 11/01/2010 05:01:56 PM 1298 Views
Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? Tom - 11/01/2010 05:12:55 PM 1221 Views
Re: Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? DomA - 11/01/2010 05:52:29 PM 1593 Views
I like Eco's distinction between light fiction and literature. Tom - 12/01/2010 04:16:38 PM 1425 Views
Re: Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen DomA - 11/01/2010 03:49:15 PM 1499 Views
That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. Tom - 11/01/2010 05:12:25 PM 1208 Views
Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. DomA - 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM 1549 Views
I agree that abridging it would not work well. Tom - 12/01/2010 04:06:26 PM 1412 Views
In which case... Jacob - 12/01/2010 05:22:34 PM 1180 Views
Yes Camilla - 13/01/2010 07:56:08 PM 1462 Views
Not really. Tom - 15/01/2010 01:18:10 PM 1631 Views
I think there are plenty of things that can be discussed. Rebekah - 09/01/2010 10:00:06 PM 1550 Views
Discussed and put to rest in 5 minutes or less, perhaps. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:17:02 AM 1419 Views
Depends on who you are, one would imagine. Rebekah - 10/01/2010 08:16:11 AM 1446 Views
<pretentious>Well, why should we cater to the lowest common denominator? Tom - 11/01/2010 02:17:03 AM 1373 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 11/01/2010 07:49:47 AM 1280 Views
I'd laugh... LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 07:21:38 PM 1145 Views
Tom is the primary reason I want an ignore feature again. lord-of-shadow - 12/01/2010 02:17:29 AM 1199 Views
I'm glad to hear that. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:17:30 PM 581 Views
And so you've reached this decision about Tom... Raserei - 18/01/2010 10:10:44 PM 1390 Views
I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM 1508 Views
It's frustrating though... LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 04:18:37 AM 1438 Views
I think if you posted that (or something like it) people would reply to it. Darth_Katie - 12/01/2010 05:08:53 AM 1459 Views
Perhaps. LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 05:26:38 AM 1152 Views
Given the people who have read the Kushiel books, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 05:58:33 AM 1216 Views
I was mostly just giving an example. LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 06:14:04 AM 1310 Views
You're not. Legolas - 12/01/2010 02:16:09 PM 1258 Views
Her next series sounds interesting LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 02:20:17 PM 1152 Views
It does, but the reviews I've seen aren't too enthusiastic. Legolas - 12/01/2010 02:29:26 PM 1192 Views
Yes, but how so? LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 02:39:59 PM 1278 Views
Well... Elaine - 13/01/2010 07:03:08 PM 1359 Views
Honestly... Legolas - 13/01/2010 07:51:14 PM 1354 Views
Absolutely. Elaine - 14/01/2010 12:55:00 PM 1496 Views
Re: Absolutely. Legolas - 14/01/2010 01:57:47 PM 1357 Views
In short, not a good name for a daughter. At least not one with an interest in Classics. Ghavrel - 15/01/2010 05:32:35 AM 1274 Views
I'm staying far, far away from Seneca. Legolas - 15/01/2010 02:01:49 PM 1518 Views
Ah, yes. The Apocolocyntosis. Possibly the least amusing humor ever penned. I hate Seneca. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/01/2010 02:14:32 AM 512 Views
ah i didn't realize it was already out LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 11:44:53 PM 1153 Views
'tis. Elaine - 14/01/2010 12:56:11 PM 1516 Views
I really don't think it would. Rebekah - 12/01/2010 07:49:32 AM 1346 Views
I have tried before. LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 01:59:24 PM 1241 Views
If it is well-written and defends the value of the book, I don't see why you shouldn't post it. Tom - 12/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 1431 Views
That's bullshit Larry - 12/01/2010 11:12:55 PM 1386 Views
True, true. Rebekah - 16/01/2010 08:54:16 AM 1109 Views
Luckily for you... Larry - 16/01/2010 08:59:23 AM 1493 Views
Re: "Omigod you read light fantasy?" Raserei - 18/01/2010 10:04:41 PM 1593 Views
Har. *NM* Raserei - 18/01/2010 10:03:31 PM 736 Views
I'm quite enjoying it. Nebhead - 09/01/2010 10:40:30 PM 1370 Views
A kid's book of adventure doesn't translate into a good book club discussion. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:21:11 AM 1270 Views
I have to agree LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 12:36:55 AM 1383 Views
How did you find deeper meaning (pun intended) in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? *NM* Tom - 11/01/2010 02:17:55 AM 556 Views
It was half bullshit, you must understand LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 03:59:42 PM 1251 Views
Come on, there is lovely tragedy there... jh - 13/01/2010 07:32:49 PM 1190 Views
I am pleased to be referenced in a cross-board discussion. *NM* Raserei - 18/01/2010 09:29:45 PM 694 Views
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