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Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. imlad Send a noteboard - 09/04/2010 05:06:49 PM

Edit: By the way, I'm not sure which Octavia you mean by Octavia Augusta, but surely Livia and Agrippina - or, in a very different style, Fulvia - were more influential regardless.


I'm assuming that refers to Augustus' sister Octavia, although I haven't seen her named Octavia Augusta before (not to say she couldn't be referred to as such, I just haven't seen it done).
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The greatest King in Fantasy Dannymac - 09/04/2010 05:18:42 AM 1994 Views
King Arthur. Hands down. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:40:15 AM 1378 Views
I would argue with you. Dannymac - 09/04/2010 06:54:53 AM 1340 Views
That's the point, though. Arthur's humanity is what makes him so admirable. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:59:07 AM 1378 Views
I have to agree with Dannymac LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:04:44 PM 1377 Views
But he's not in a modern fantasy novel. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 07:37:14 PM 1394 Views
when I read the actual book... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:08:21 AM 1395 Views
"The actual character"? Which of the countless different ones? *NM* Legolas - 10/04/2010 12:21:00 AM 657 Views
i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:51:44 AM 1471 Views
There isn't an "actual book." Le Morte d'Arthur is a relatively early compilation of legends. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 03:09:40 AM 700 Views
Re: i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:17:12 AM 1389 Views
I'm going with the most likely historical version of King Arthur RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:45:26 PM 1424 Views
My money is still on Aragorn Camilla - 09/04/2010 12:47:43 PM 1491 Views
Aragorn is so awesome... LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:05:42 PM 1355 Views
Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:18:30 PM 1318 Views
Re: Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 02:49:45 PM 1377 Views
Hm nossy - 09/04/2010 03:23:53 PM 1426 Views
Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. Legolas - 09/04/2010 03:32:00 PM 1322 Views
Re: Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 03:45:37 PM 1579 Views
I can't agree about the goddesses. Legolas - 09/04/2010 04:34:15 PM 1425 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 04:55:34 PM 1319 Views
If Tacitus and Graves were accurate imlad - 09/04/2010 05:09:20 PM 1411 Views
Re: If Tacitus and Graves were accurate lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:26:43 PM 1330 Views
I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:34:37 PM 1417 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:45:06 PM 1479 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Camilla - 10/04/2010 11:14:26 AM 1489 Views
I don't know if I'd call it bad, per se. Legolas - 10/04/2010 11:37:55 AM 1592 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:02:50 PM 1373 Views
Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:31:42 PM 1338 Views
Re: Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:44:03 PM 1378 Views
Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:55:23 PM 1389 Views
Re: Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 07:04:37 PM 1393 Views
thought of a better example: Arien the Maia of the Sun was single and far more powerful than Tilion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 09:17:34 PM 1625 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. imlad - 09/04/2010 05:06:49 PM 1485 Views
That was my first assumption too, but evidently not. *NM* Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:22:39 PM 640 Views
I changed it to Livia Augusta Sheesh, you people-- a guy mistypes one time!! *NM* lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:29:03 PM 702 Views
I call bullshit Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:09:49 PM 1322 Views
Re: I call bullshit lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:31:16 PM 1346 Views
Re: I call bullshit Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:04:15 AM 1429 Views
I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:12:07 PM 1423 Views
Re: I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. Camilla - 12/04/2010 11:00:23 AM 1291 Views
Exactly. Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 03:08:46 AM 1406 Views
Re: Exactly. Camilla - 13/04/2010 08:54:01 AM 1482 Views
I was going to say something similar. nossy - 09/04/2010 03:21:45 PM 1345 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:00:25 PM 1331 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:37:12 PM 1346 Views
He's good, but then he just doesn't have to face so many things. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:22:04 PM 1625 Views
Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 09/04/2010 07:59:27 PM 1391 Views
As in, there are many important aspects of being king he doesn't have to face. Legolas - 09/04/2010 08:07:16 PM 1372 Views
well technically speaking he WAS the king when he did all those things. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:15:26 AM 1381 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:38:51 PM 1237 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:24:33 AM 1328 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:08:42 PM 1489 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 12/04/2010 10:55:12 AM 1291 Views
He really wasn't a king in majority of the story though random thoughts - 12/04/2010 05:54:23 PM 1291 Views
I'm sure there are many, but one coming to mind is Prince Josua from Memory, Sorrow and Thorn Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:23:57 PM 1341 Views
Oh yeah I liked him a lot *NM* ironclad - 09/04/2010 04:09:59 PM 672 Views
Josua Lackhand is a great fantasy King! imlad - 09/04/2010 05:14:39 PM 1407 Views
Arutha was never King. *NM* Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 07:18:30 PM 641 Views
I'm going to go with a tie... Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 04:22:42 PM 1356 Views
Rohan was a whiny hypocritical bitch who failed at the only real test of rulership he ever faced. Cannoli - 10/04/2010 02:51:34 AM 1405 Views
That actually slipped my mind. I can't believe that. Myrdhyn - 16/04/2010 04:44:46 PM 1437 Views
Joffrey and the Stag! *NM* Kotagg - 09/04/2010 09:53:56 PM 644 Views
ROFL *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 11:39:36 PM 623 Views
Artur Hawkwing Cannoli - 10/04/2010 03:34:02 AM 1506 Views
Alexander the Great? *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 05:08:25 AM 670 Views
AH conquered more, did better, & was not a huge d-bag. Alex would have commissioned that big statue *NM* Cannoli - 12/04/2010 03:00:39 PM 648 Views
And both managed to have their so-called "empires" crumble within a year of their death. *NM* Ghavrel - 12/04/2010 06:12:20 PM 656 Views
Which just reinforces how awesome AH was - no one else could do what he did Cannoli - 13/04/2010 11:50:54 AM 1427 Views
??? Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:30:13 AM 1894 Views
Ta'veren is not a power, it is an accomodation with what the Pattern demands of certain people Cannoli - 12/04/2010 02:56:57 PM 1324 Views
Simba *NM* BlackAdder - 10/04/2010 08:40:38 AM 693 Views
Manwe Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:31:54 AM 1787 Views
Bah. He's hardly a character. *NM* AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:07:29 AM 771 Views
Arutha, the Prince of Krondor AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:06:14 AM 1400 Views
Westley Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 02:59:36 AM 1341 Views
Leto Atreides II random thoughts - 13/04/2010 05:07:29 AM 1291 Views
I'll agree with that! *NM* imlad - 13/04/2010 11:33:10 AM 642 Views
What's the name of the Lemur-thing that's the King in "the penguins of madagascar"? He gets my vote! *NM* Mjolner - 14/04/2010 04:46:42 AM 703 Views
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