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No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired Roland00 Send a noteboard - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM
Nice try ;) My argument may be a strawman and I don't see but to prove you will need to show how I am misstating the schools position.

It was an example of fuzzy thinking. Do you believe scholarships
for GLBT are needed to increase the diversity of liberal arts schools?

No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired.
1) Yet they are a private institution so I believe they should have the right to offer them if they want, for it isn't hurt people.
2) I also understand it is good business sense to offer these scholarships in the way they are doing so.

Pretty much I do not see this as right vs left, but instead a tactic at profit maximization. Even though this is a school, it is also very much a business and the school is doing what it needs to gain additional revenue sources ;)
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left random thoughts - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 960 Views
Personally I still favor demographic blind subsidies as the best route to meritocracy. Joel - 25/08/2011 08:18:20 PM 548 Views
it works for gender as well random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 560 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 609 Views
Preferential in possible scholarships but not admissions process according to the article Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:26:25 PM 460 Views
What's your point? Joel - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 442 Views
There are colleges that don't allow homosexuals - or men, or women for that matter. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 551 Views
Alright then, socially unacceptable. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:00:16 AM 582 Views
Ummm, did you read the article? Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 605 Views
Ah, but you are not reading it either Dark Knight - 25/08/2011 08:53:39 PM 630 Views
But that's just a scholarship. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 09:34:23 PM 589 Views
so you would OK if the only offered it to straight students? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:50:44 PM 212 Views
You do realize that there are indeed universities refusing admission to gay students? Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:02:41 PM 453 Views
I would have no problem with a LGBT only school as long as it didn't take state money random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:27:48 PM 513 Views
This is a private university, not a state university *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:29:15 PM 245 Views
sorry that ended with NM. Were you trying to make a point if so I missed it *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:48 PM 258 Views
I expect some donor created a scholarship with that stipulation. Tim - 25/08/2011 10:40:09 PM 541 Views
I know my reply to his message may have made in seem that I was objecting to the scholarship random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:10:33 PM 560 Views
If you're talking about "affirmative action", then yes, I oppose that. Tim - 26/08/2011 09:19:33 AM 496 Views
no I was talking about feel good solutions to imaginary problems random thoughts - 26/08/2011 01:38:33 PM 573 Views
it is a scholarship program not a admissions program random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:12:47 PM 572 Views
I don't really have a problem with this Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:03:55 PM 646 Views
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed to do it random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:29:54 PM 474 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 516 Views
The United Church of Christ is a rather liberal denomination - celebrating gay marriages, notably. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:06:26 PM 487 Views
their stated motive was to increase diversity random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:09:17 PM 644 Views
well. It could be they just needed a reason, but for some reason couldn't be forthright? LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:28:52 AM 477 Views
One of your lines struck me. Nate - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 616 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 463 Views
That's an interesting point... Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 545 Views
yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM 659 Views
Re: yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different Legolas - 26/08/2011 09:57:13 PM 561 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result Nate - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 565 Views
I don't think most people believed Obama was a centrist so much as the anti-Bush random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:40:43 AM 489 Views
I think you'll find very few Europeans agreeing with that assessment. Legolas - 26/08/2011 10:18:19 PM 463 Views
It's also worth noting ... Nate - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 448 Views
Wow what a strawman Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 635 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 423 Views
No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM 614 Views
so you don't disagree with me or you do? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 561 Views
Ridiculous. Everyone knows conservatives are incapable of creativity. TaskmasterJack - 25/08/2011 11:12:10 PM 437 Views
are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 506 Views
I would definetly check "yes" Aisha - 26/08/2011 12:11:29 AM 619 Views
but if they wanted to increase diversity they would offer yo a scholarship for being Muslim random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:46:46 AM 475 Views
id be a gay muslim, so Id be 3 minorities, a woman, a muslim and a lesbian, now if only I was black! Aisha - 26/08/2011 02:16:50 AM 554 Views
I think it's less a failing of the "left"... LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:25:42 AM 562 Views
I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well random thoughts - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 503 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 616 Views
a question for you... Dominic - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 657 Views
I guess my question for you is how I made it sound like LGBT=liberal random thoughts - 26/08/2011 09:47:16 PM 458 Views
My guess is because you referenced "the lefts" fuzzy logic in a thread about a LGBT scholarship. Joel - 26/08/2011 11:07:32 PM 615 Views
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