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I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well random thoughts Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM
But I guess what bothers me is a lot of the ideas the left has I would support but they tend to be implemented so poorly. One of the worst things is this tendency to pick winners and losers and to pick them more on they want to win instead of who really needs the help. My wife works in the construction industry and they have been trying to get come contracts with the city and it really shows the ugly underbelly of this sort picking winners and losers. The certified minority companies come in about 50% higher than the none certified companies because they know you have to have a certain percentage of minority owned sub contractors to get the job. Technically the law says you only have to show they you let them bid but in practice the city council won't approve it without at least 25%.

It isn't like the inner city poor are being helped by these programs, the minority owned companies hire the same illegals and pay them the same wages as as none minority companies they just get to line their pockets with some extra tax dollars. Now who is being helped by letting rich minority business men run up extra profit at the expense of the tax payer? I would be all for supporting real programs to help inner city poverty and the horrid cycle it creates but instead I can support hand outs to the chosen few and disadvantage to my own family or I can support republicans. Even fuzzy logic would have trouble getting that wrong.

There are some logic problems on the right but they tend to get worse the further you get from the leadership and policies of the party. The problem with the logic errors on the left is how they affect the leadership or the elite in place like our universities. You can argue that the tea party logic isn't any better than logic of liberal elite but I am not sure it would help them much to argue that.
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 1208 Views
Personally I still favor demographic blind subsidies as the best route to meritocracy. - 25/08/2011 08:18:20 PM 800 Views
it works for gender as well - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 804 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 860 Views
Preferential in possible scholarships but not admissions process according to the article - 25/08/2011 10:26:25 PM 723 Views
What's your point? - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 673 Views
There are colleges that don't allow homosexuals - or men, or women for that matter. - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 785 Views
Alright then, socially unacceptable. - 26/08/2011 01:00:16 AM 813 Views
Ummm, did you read the article? - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 865 Views
Ah, but you are not reading it either - 25/08/2011 08:53:39 PM 837 Views
But that's just a scholarship. - 25/08/2011 09:34:23 PM 818 Views
it is a scholarship program not a admissions program - 25/08/2011 09:12:47 PM 807 Views
I don't really have a problem with this - 25/08/2011 09:03:55 PM 858 Views
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed to do it - 25/08/2011 09:29:54 PM 714 Views
Fair Enough - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 765 Views
their stated motive was to increase diversity - 25/08/2011 10:09:17 PM 875 Views
One of your lines struck me. - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 876 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 693 Views
That's an interesting point... - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 786 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 806 Views
It's also worth noting ... - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 688 Views
Wow what a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 884 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 682 Views
No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM 844 Views
so you don't disagree with me or you do? - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 819 Views
Ridiculous. Everyone knows conservatives are incapable of creativity. - 25/08/2011 11:12:10 PM 677 Views
are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 731 Views
I think it's less a failing of the "left"... - 26/08/2011 03:25:42 AM 803 Views
I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 738 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 850 Views
a question for you... - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 967 Views

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