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Re: yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 09:57:13 PM
To a lot of people on the right he was a RINO or pretty close to it. McCain was a centrist as well and the right considered him even more of a RINO. So I don't buy the argument that many are making that the country is looking for a centrist. I think a lot of people on the right are looking for a true conservative not some wishy washy compassionate conservative, and not just the tea party. I also don't think the left was looking for a comprising moderate when they elected Obama.

I think "unorthodox" or his favourite "maverick" are better descriptions of McCain than "moderate". Many on the left genuinely appreciated him as a senator - but of course as a presidential candidate he had to care far more about coming across as a good conservative following the party line, and inevitably lost his appeal to Democrats. I frankly know too little about Bush prior and during his first election to say - I was thirteen in 2000.

I think it's not so much that the country is looking for a centrist, as looking for a reconciliator - someone who can lessen the endless bickering and get things done with both parties (and man, was the left ever wrong when they thought Obama could be that guy...). Which obviously is a lot easier if you're a centrist, but being a centrist in itself isn't enough, and as you note the majority of both parties is lukewarm at best about centrists policy-wise.
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 1208 Views
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it works for gender as well - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 804 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 860 Views
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What's your point? - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 673 Views
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Alright then, socially unacceptable. - 26/08/2011 01:00:16 AM 813 Views
Ummm, did you read the article? - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 865 Views
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Fair Enough - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 765 Views
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One of your lines struck me. - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 876 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 693 Views
That's an interesting point... - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 785 Views
yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM 897 Views
Re: yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different - 26/08/2011 09:57:13 PM 786 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 806 Views
It's also worth noting ... - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 688 Views
Wow what a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 884 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 682 Views
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so you don't disagree with me or you do? - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 818 Views
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are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 731 Views
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I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 737 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 850 Views
a question for you... - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 967 Views

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