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I'd definitely encourage absentee voting Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/01/2012 07:14:02 PM
I know there are non-photo options currently accepted. I didn't know we were considered one of the most restrictive in terms of ID requirements though. That's interesting to me because it seems like there are a lot of options encompassing a fairly broad range.


Pretty broad,an example of one that doesn't work is your cell phone bill, as unlike a land line or gas line there's no need for the company to physically connect something to that house.

Right, $8.50 for the state ID. I guess there could be a charge to obtain a copy of any supporting documentation you might need if you don't already have your birth certificate lying around or something like that, but I think I'd be okay with it as long as there were no charge for the ID itself.


I don't even particular object to a small fee so long as it is clearly at-cost, but it is my opinion that barring repeat and excessive requests (asking for your birth certificate twice a year for instance) governments should provide such documentation free of charge and that it is in our interests only to charge for ID cards in cases of repeat losses.

Oooh, that's right, I read about the absentee mailings this year. I forgot about that. My husband and I always remember on election day when we're going to vote before work that we meant to get absentee ballots to avoid having to get up so early :P Maybe this will be the year we do it. Are OH absentee ballots treated like provisional ballots? Are they only counted in certain cases or anything like that?


Well in Ohio the provisionals are their own special crazy case, most are ultimately tossed because policy is simply to let anyone cast a provisional if they put up enough fuss, rather than to slw down the line or risk a crazy response. I vote absentee, I got used to it in the military and I'm not a judge in my own precinct so I can't vote there. I encourage people to vote that way, because you can have your ballot and really sit down and look at it, google names, talk it over, research, etc. My own county BoE and probably all the others always puts up copies of the ballots on line by precinct in advance, so you can do your research before going to the polls, but I like being able to sit down and look at a levy for instance and calculate the millage cost to me, or check up on really down-ticket races like school board or Township Trustee. Now, you can google your county board of elections and ask them to send you out an absentee request, you mail that back in and they send you out the ballot ASAP or as soon as the window opens, I believe we're safely inside the request window already. Your absentee will be counted like any normal one, maybe more so since you can even call them up to make sure yours was received and verified. I don't think any auto-mailing of requests will be done for primaries, just general.
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How does requiring photo ID disenfranchise the black/minority community? - 15/01/2012 05:14:16 PM 1976 Views
I certainly don't know. *NM* - 15/01/2012 05:32:42 PM 556 Views
From what I understand ... - 15/01/2012 05:34:39 PM 1095 Views
but you need a photo ID for so many other things - 15/01/2012 05:42:06 PM 966 Views
Well. - 15/01/2012 05:53:04 PM 1092 Views
your last bit is a good point *NM* - 15/01/2012 06:07:17 PM 598 Views
The SCOTUS disagrees with you. - 16/01/2012 03:14:57 AM 937 Views
I didn't even need to show a voter regestration card last time I voted *NM* - 16/01/2012 11:45:23 PM 695 Views
That is kind of pathetic. - 17/01/2012 06:45:19 AM 890 Views
you are not taking my amazing good looks into account - 17/01/2012 11:22:16 AM 807 Views
I cannot speak to that. - 17/01/2012 04:11:53 PM 1008 Views
It "disenfranchises" whoever only barely brings him- or herself to vote as it is. - 15/01/2012 05:34:50 PM 965 Views
That really only reinforces the idea to me that this is just people looking to fight about something *NM* - 15/01/2012 05:45:37 PM 537 Views
Did you read your own article? - 15/01/2012 05:48:21 PM 1017 Views
but out of that 200,000, how many would go get an ID? - 15/01/2012 06:08:44 PM 980 Views
I think that's an exaggeration, but to play devil's advocate... - 15/01/2012 05:41:10 PM 912 Views
it doesn't strike me as a very big layer to add. *NM* - 15/01/2012 05:43:37 PM 533 Views
Someone presents a poll worker a non-DL photo ID. - 15/01/2012 05:48:50 PM 985 Views
This is a remarkably calm and reasonable political discussion. What's going on? *NM* - 15/01/2012 08:05:30 PM 555 Views
I'm magical? *NM* - 15/01/2012 08:59:33 PM 625 Views
It is not a black and white issue - 16/01/2012 01:07:14 AM 990 Views
I prefer to think i'm magical. *NM* - 16/01/2012 01:20:49 AM 546 Views
I don't see any cat nearby, thus no magic was used *nods* *NM* - 16/01/2012 01:28:50 AM 574 Views
that's too obvious. - 16/01/2012 02:48:29 AM 968 Views
You did not just compare a cat to a rabbit - 16/01/2012 03:07:49 AM 981 Views
have you ever had a rabbit? - 16/01/2012 03:25:26 AM 1033 Views
A cat would never lower itself assumming the form of a fluffy rabbit - 16/01/2012 12:49:26 PM 1068 Views
that's just what they want you to think. - 16/01/2012 02:34:48 PM 910 Views
Viscous does not mean Magical - 16/01/2012 02:45:10 PM 1106 Views
Not that I care much either way, but please, answer this: - 15/01/2012 09:26:23 PM 1045 Views
definitely not. However, ID cards are free in South Carolina. - 15/01/2012 09:33:06 PM 1119 Views
You could walk. *NM* - 16/01/2012 06:31:58 AM 543 Views
Oh I could, theoretically. Although this year, my poll is a good 7 miles away - 16/01/2012 08:45:42 AM 1126 Views
7 miles away, isn't that illegal? *NM* - 16/01/2012 05:35:50 PM 545 Views
probably, but not really at the same time. It's my own fault regardless. - 16/01/2012 10:46:06 PM 1027 Views
Illegal? My polling location is > 7 miles from my permanent residence. - 17/01/2012 12:19:21 AM 980 Views
I really have no idea what the rules are. *NM* - 17/01/2012 03:02:04 PM 549 Views
Every state has its own rules - 17/01/2012 03:54:43 PM 1023 Views
No, and there's is no place in the US that is the case - 16/01/2012 12:11:36 AM 1038 Views
Short answer: Yes. (Let me know if you want the long answer.) *NM* - 16/01/2012 07:52:36 PM 649 Views
that would be interesting. *NM* - 16/01/2012 08:45:24 PM 563 Views
I don't see how it does - 15/01/2012 10:22:29 PM 1048 Views
Re: I don't see how it does - 15/01/2012 10:57:20 PM 987 Views
I believe most states also offer a non-drivers ID issued by the DMV - 16/01/2012 12:12:09 AM 936 Views
Also passports work too in most places. *NM* - 16/01/2012 06:59:51 PM 588 Views
those are far far from economical or practical compared to state IDs *NM* - 16/01/2012 07:12:30 PM 455 Views
Non-driver IDs, as said above - 16/01/2012 11:55:55 PM 1014 Views
they don't cost in all states. They are free in SC *NM* - 17/01/2012 12:00:14 AM 566 Views
It is a catch 22 situation, the free id is not a perfect solution - 16/01/2012 12:53:11 AM 1100 Views
That problem is significant, but far bigger than voting. - 16/01/2012 02:53:13 AM 1038 Views
Also you can't claim voter fraud is a big problem - 16/01/2012 12:57:18 AM 1002 Views
can you prove that voter fraud is not a problem? - 16/01/2012 02:04:52 AM 931 Views
In 5 years of investigation, 120 people were charged national with voter fraud, 86 were convincted - 16/01/2012 02:33:07 AM 1168 Views
That's smoke and mirrors - 16/01/2012 01:51:34 PM 1061 Views
It seems you didn't read the article, or understand its point - 16/01/2012 02:39:39 PM 997 Views
I suspect I know a good deal more of this subject than the author of your 5-year old article - 16/01/2012 05:37:54 PM 995 Views
Question for you - 16/01/2012 06:01:09 PM 1032 Views
I'd prefer photo-ID only but I don't see too great a need. - 16/01/2012 06:37:13 PM 1172 Views
I tend to agree - 16/01/2012 06:50:43 PM 929 Views
I'd definitely encourage absentee voting - 16/01/2012 07:14:02 PM 1042 Views
I am required to produce a state ID to vote. - 16/01/2012 02:21:27 PM 1037 Views
Re: How does requiring photo ID disenfranchise the black/minority community? - 16/01/2012 02:42:28 PM 1027 Views
Keep wearing that tinfoil hat. *NM* - 16/01/2012 03:09:56 PM 564 Views
I'm not reading the article but... - 17/01/2012 09:48:27 AM 963 Views
maybe there's no excuse in your area - 17/01/2012 03:05:53 PM 932 Views
I think when you get to such extreme examples, the point often becomes moot. - 18/01/2012 07:26:10 PM 898 Views
that pretty much sums up my thoughts no it - 18/01/2012 08:57:41 PM 928 Views
Re: I think when you get to such extreme examples, the point often becomes moot. - 21/01/2012 02:44:56 AM 1155 Views
Well, that's kind of what I meant. - 21/01/2012 02:15:30 PM 1064 Views
Re: Well, that's kind of what I meant. - 28/01/2012 03:48:19 PM 1243 Views
Re: maybe there's no excuse in your area - 21/01/2012 02:39:12 AM 1022 Views
What? I'm the only one who cares? - 18/01/2012 02:14:28 AM 1113 Views
Yes, just you, the rest of us have been discussing baseball this entire time *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:41:25 AM 562 Views
I'm the only one who cares with fervor in a non nuanced way ok? *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:07:07 AM 554 Views
imo, fervor has no place in political discussion - 18/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 971 Views
What? - 18/01/2012 03:57:10 PM 872 Views
What about those who don't have an id and have been voting fine before? - 18/01/2012 06:06:19 PM 1120 Views
the problem with that last point is... - 18/01/2012 09:05:43 PM 967 Views
Yes. - 18/01/2012 09:32:25 PM 1133 Views
Cry me a river. Honestly. - 20/01/2012 05:28:05 AM 886 Views
What's your real question? - 18/01/2012 05:07:30 PM 931 Views
Question mark notwithstanding, there was no question. - 18/01/2012 06:16:46 PM 1026 Views
Be outraged. Be passionate. Be surprised. - 19/01/2012 05:42:37 PM 1169 Views

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