Pretty much he has done accounting math to obtain everything he wanted but get rid of the complaints.
but I do think he's accomplishing what he meant to, which is important for me. The polls aren't killing him because this is what many women (and I have to assume men?) secretly want - it infuriates me that many of them won't say this in front of their peers for fear of judgement, but it still shows that there is a silent majority in favor of affordable contraception. (I point this out as someone who has recently been discussing tooooooo much with several different types of female friends/family members. I can't say it makes me completely correct, but the comments certainly seem to support me.)
Joel, I love you, but I can no longer read your "Obama bomb" posts, so I have no idea what other discussion is happening here, and will be leaving now. You sound like triscuit. Ugh.
I cannot really blame you. I am just frustrated, disillusioned and bitter over Obama turning out to be yet another Republican Lite Democrat and what those policies are doing to the nation and world. This is not a win for womens health. That depends on insurers agreeing to offer free contraceptive coverage because 1) It makes economic sense (they would already give free coverage if it were that simple) and 2) they want in on insurance exchanges that will not exist until two years from now.
Do not hold your breath. But Obama can yet again tell progressives he delivered for us even though he actually abandoned us, and the torch-wielding villagers sick of puritanical robber barons will go out and vote for him again because "he fights for us." No one fights for us; America is every man for himself now.
It seems to me that you're too far to the left to view it clearly - America is simply NOT that progressive yet, and Obama is going back to pretty much where he has to be. I won't claim that he's been some sort of genius, but he IS essentially what I expected - "republican lite" is a cute term you like to use, but I think we're just learning what happens when one side tries to work in compromises and everyone is used to ultimatums, so it doesn't work (or appears not to).
Every time I read one of your posts that touches on this, I get the feeling that you're convinced he should be the man everyone talked about in the campaign. We all knew that couldn't happen. Govt doesn't work like that. So anyway, I don't want to sit here and tell you I think you're wrong, so I should probably just shut up and let you keep on.
Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up
- 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM
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This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again.
- 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM
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For someone who used to be a Con Law professor
- 10/02/2012 08:23:34 PM
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In general, I disagree with that view, but not in this particular case.
- 11/02/2012 02:02:42 AM
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Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well.
- 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM
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I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! 
*NM*
- 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM
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*NM*
- 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM
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Wanting both parties to be hit by a bus does not make one non-partisan.
- 09/02/2012 10:05:28 PM
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- 09/02/2012 10:05:28 PM
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You lost all credibility in the first line of your post.
- 09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM
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*NM*
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM*
- 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM
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It's one thing to have a bias.
- 09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM
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Wow, talk about making a supernova out of a couple hydrogen atoms.
- 09/02/2012 08:41:44 PM
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The Catholic Church wants to eliminate the birth control coverage requirement entirely.
- 10/02/2012 12:24:01 AM
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Sounds like they just do not want Catholics directly financing; great argument for public healthcare
- 10/02/2012 02:27:36 AM
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I'm somewhat suprised that Obama blundered this badly.
- 10/02/2012 01:40:14 AM
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Why? Have you not been paying attention?
- 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM
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- 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM
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If I am not satisfied with Romney then my Plan B is to not vote.
- 10/02/2012 10:58:34 PM
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How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course.
- 11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM
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No everynametaken this is not unconsitutional according to the first ammendment
- 11/02/2012 12:14:29 AM
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Obama doing this actually impresses me to no end.
- 10/02/2012 02:21:10 AM
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He is already preparing to cave.
- 10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM
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Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said.
- 10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM
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Aaaaand you can put your hat back on now: Obama has already caved.
- 10/02/2012 04:04:30 PM
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Yup, the cave already happened.....you could have set your watch to this! *NM*
- 10/02/2012 05:00:02 PM
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Actually, no, I could not; I expected it to take another week or two.
- 11/02/2012 01:27:31 AM
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No, you don't have to buy it from insurers. You get it for free, just like everyone else will. *NM*
- 10/02/2012 09:55:53 PM
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"The employees can then buy the coverage directly from an insurer."
- 11/02/2012 01:25:52 AM
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Then that article is wrong.
- 11/02/2012 01:43:40 AM
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Two days ago the White House said it would not back down from requiring school/hospital compliance.
- 11/02/2012 01:57:50 AM
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So in summary... the article you posted was wrong.
- 11/02/2012 02:18:00 AM
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To soon to tell, but if you think so feel free to demand a correction from them.
- 11/02/2012 03:12:40 AM
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Losing the exchanges is a pretty big loss
- 11/02/2012 03:30:15 AM
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So they refuse to cover it for the next two years, then do an about face in 2014.
- 11/02/2012 03:57:53 AM
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If Aetna does not provide the free contraception as part of the compromise
- 11/02/2012 02:46:14 AM
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Yeah, I saw that; if Aetna does not do as Obama says by 2014 they lose out on free profits then.
- 11/02/2012 03:13:36 AM
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So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions?
- 10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM
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Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
- 10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM
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Money is not the same as speech!
- 10/02/2012 07:20:56 PM
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And actions are different from both—until others are expected to pay for ones actions.
- 11/02/2012 12:53:40 AM
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No it isn't Joel, empirically you are dead wrong
- 10/02/2012 11:24:19 PM
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I do not see how requiring private entities do it instead of the feds is "least restrictive way."
- 11/02/2012 12:53:22 AM
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Catholic Charities of Sacramento Inc. v. Superior Court
- 11/02/2012 01:21:46 AM
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"the Court found that it wasn't a religious organization, it was just a non-profit corporation."
- 11/02/2012 01:36:33 AM
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One last point
- 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM
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The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes.
- 11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM
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You argument does not make sense
- 11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM
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It was an analogy, not an equivalency.
- 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM
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Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality
- 11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM
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Why could I not buy it with my own money?
- 11/02/2012 03:46:33 AM
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Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money?
- 11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM
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In other words, I could.
- 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM
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You believe it can't help people since it is not single payer? *NM*
- 11/02/2012 04:31:13 AM
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Since you answered this in your other response I will just adress it there. *MN*
- 11/02/2012 05:59:37 AM
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Some more points
- 11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM
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Sex is not a necessity either.
- 11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM
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LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it )
- 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
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in it )
- 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
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Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained.
- 11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM
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The polls disagree with you.
- 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM
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It is an interesting article, but not for the polls.
- 11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM
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I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway
- 11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM
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Frankly, I hope Obamacare DOES die, just not because of the public mandate.
- 11/02/2012 07:18:04 AM
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I haven't really heard about it outside of this post, so the negative exposure can't be too bad.
- 11/02/2012 05:56:58 PM
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There seems to be plenty of Hell raising over it, but you are in the States and I am not.
- 11/02/2012 07:55:51 PM
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I don't think it's quite the laughing matter you think it is
- 11/02/2012 12:31:23 PM
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Understood.
- 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM
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mmm...
- 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM
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The man talked about during the campaign was the one elected with a mandate.
- 12/02/2012 02:28:15 AM
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I think Obama (for once) was far more clever you give him credit for...
- 15/02/2012 05:11:10 PM
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Surrendering on liberal issues then blaming Republicans is not just Obamas strategy, but his POLICY.
- 15/02/2012 07:23:04 PM
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