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Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM
The situation in the US is of course different to that in the UK and other countries - what works there isn't automatically going to work in the US. There does seem to me to be a need in the US for a sensible discussion on it, which seems unlikely given how polarised the country is, because the reality is there is no way to realistically take all the guns in the country out of circulation and there are genuine reasons why people should have them but there is also a reason why guns are the weapon of choice for killing with most of the time and death is rarely a good thing.

I agree with you in general - guns should be restricted in the type available, I don't see why someone should need anything beyond rifles and shotguns generally though in the US given the prevelance of handguns already in circulation a ban on sales for them is unrealistic. Someway of making sure the person getting the gun is competent to own a gun seems a pretty basic requirement to me - in terms of age, mental state and training in safely handling firearms. In my opinion there should be responsibility as well - if you own a gun then you have a responsibility to make sure that gun isn't used in criminal activity, both by keeping it secured and reporting if it is stolen... and following on from that to me it makes sense to both make it a legal requirement that all guns sold are registered and that anyone with a gun must register it (good luck to a politication trying to sell that one though to a lot of the pro-gun crowd though).

I would guess any debate on the issue will see the extremists on both sides drown out the sensible voices in the centre though.
*MySmiley*

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Henning Mankell "We must defend the open society, because if we start locking our doors, if we let fear decide, the person who committed the act of terror will win"
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1495 Views
Kind of? - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 944 Views
Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 814 Views
Re: Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 931 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 919 Views
Feisty. - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 1027 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 856 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 729 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 851 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 945 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 987 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 895 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 1100 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 995 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 871 Views
Re: - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 911 Views
Okay, that makes no sense - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 928 Views
Re: Re: - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 959 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 958 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1071 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 953 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 891 Views
... his was shorter? - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 812 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 895 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 751 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 894 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 426 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 905 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 946 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 978 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 899 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 872 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 846 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 1014 Views
Norway? Scotland? - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 850 Views
You can keep this up - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 838 Views
Hi, Cannoli. - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 858 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 811 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 1027 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 915 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 799 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 943 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 817 Views
Bullshit - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 960 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 875 Views
Or - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 784 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 795 Views
HE was talking about normal people. - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 907 Views
I think we are talking past each other - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 874 Views
Possibly. We do do that. - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 902 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 830 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 885 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 1041 Views
You're wrong - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 812 Views
Yes. - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 817 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 954 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 847 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 855 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 414 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 953 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 806 Views
Ha! - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 727 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 918 Views
You get some wild stories - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 922 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 816 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 925 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 904 Views
assault rifles are banned - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 858 Views
Touchy - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 1038 Views

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