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Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM
The situation in the US is of course different to that in the UK and other countries - what works there isn't automatically going to work in the US. There does seem to me to be a need in the US for a sensible discussion on it, which seems unlikely given how polarised the country is, because the reality is there is no way to realistically take all the guns in the country out of circulation and there are genuine reasons why people should have them but there is also a reason why guns are the weapon of choice for killing with most of the time and death is rarely a good thing.

I agree with you in general - guns should be restricted in the type available, I don't see why someone should need anything beyond rifles and shotguns generally though in the US given the prevelance of handguns already in circulation a ban on sales for them is unrealistic. Someway of making sure the person getting the gun is competent to own a gun seems a pretty basic requirement to me - in terms of age, mental state and training in safely handling firearms. In my opinion there should be responsibility as well - if you own a gun then you have a responsibility to make sure that gun isn't used in criminal activity, both by keeping it secured and reporting if it is stolen... and following on from that to me it makes sense to both make it a legal requirement that all guns sold are registered and that anyone with a gun must register it (good luck to a politication trying to sell that one though to a lot of the pro-gun crowd though).

I would guess any debate on the issue will see the extremists on both sides drown out the sensible voices in the centre though.
*MySmiley*

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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1421 Views
Kind of? - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 869 Views
Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 718 Views
Re: Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 862 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 848 Views
Feisty. - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 947 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 783 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 662 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 785 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 859 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 918 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 796 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 994 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 898 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 805 Views
Re: - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 847 Views
Okay, that makes no sense - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 856 Views
Re: Re: - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 885 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 885 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1005 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 885 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 819 Views
... his was shorter? - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 740 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 818 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 674 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 816 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 397 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 842 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 874 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 901 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 805 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 796 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 774 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 934 Views
Norway? Scotland? - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 778 Views
You can keep this up - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 770 Views
Hi, Cannoli. - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 786 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 739 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 958 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 838 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 728 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 848 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 748 Views
Bullshit - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 893 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 807 Views
Or - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 713 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 729 Views
HE was talking about normal people. - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 828 Views
I think we are talking past each other - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 788 Views
Possibly. We do do that. - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 821 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 750 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 809 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 969 Views
You're wrong - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 737 Views
Yes. - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 739 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 881 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 781 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 781 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 388 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 868 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 722 Views
Ha! - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 653 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 839 Views
You get some wild stories - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 853 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 744 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 857 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 816 Views
assault rifles are banned - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 779 Views
Touchy - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 968 Views

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