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If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM
And all this once again reminds me that if we only protected the rights of the people who agreed with us, we wouldn't have free speech. People are welcome to boycott Chick-Fil-A (I don't think I would have gone to one even before the controversy), sponsors can pull sponsorship. People are welcome to hate Voula Papachristou, too. However, I think the "official" actions taken against both are disgusting, too.


Indeed. Invariably, this comes down to whose ox is being gored, and if it degenerates to that level, then politics gets a lot nastier - when government usurps too much authority, it becomes a matter of life or death to win the elections or whatever means are used to take control of the government, if only to prevent your side from being the ones who are censored and banned, and to turn it against the other side as a matter of survival. Eventually, with being in power becoming a matter of survival, any means necessary to get power is going to be seen as legitimate. That's the end result of political power being used to enforce morals or group privileges.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1382 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 867 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 1017 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 888 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 1038 Views
So that excuses thought control? - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 940 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 1083 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 819 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 801 Views
Even worse. - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 842 Views
Erm - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 885 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 882 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 468 Views
Well, that's absurd. - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 964 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 863 Views
Africans != illegals - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 919 Views
Specious reasoning. - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 785 Views
Who are you to decide that? - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 950 Views
I'm not the one deciding. - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 783 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 902 Views
That's an oversimplification. - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 859 Views
You stated it as a fact. - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 838 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 857 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 921 Views
It is for me - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 836 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 403 Views
Is that all that happened? - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 801 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 988 Views
For me it is more than enough - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 767 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 814 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 993 Views
This. *NM* - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 422 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 839 Views
How is it censorship? - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 929 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 1063 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 953 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 1079 Views
Well - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 837 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 484 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 806 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 1128 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 863 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 540 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 448 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 881 Views
It was insensitive at best - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1392 Views
One problem. - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 838 Views
Exactly - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 841 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 822 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 866 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 778 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 820 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 835 Views
Surely you don't think... - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 745 Views
Heh. - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 991 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 827 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 857 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 876 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 875 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 544 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 707 Views

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