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Allow me to point out... Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM
This is a military struggle, between a nation and her allies and an army of religious extremists whose tactics include terrorism. alQaeda is an army, not a terrorist group. Unfortunately, they've been mislabeled.

This war is basically being fought because alQaeda and the other groups who adhere to the form of weaponized Islam that bin Laden & Co are peddling feel they have a religious and moral obligation to fight the U.S. for several reasons. They aren't killing cause they like to, they aren't killing because they're insane, they're killing because of issues such as (off the top of my head) U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, U.S. support for secular (and oppressive) regimes in Arab countries, U.S. support for Israel, and U.S. economic sanctions on Iraq in the 90's. It isn't organized crime, it's a war, and this trial proves that the people in charge of leading America during this war are definitely not in the right frame of mind.


that all terrorist groups have political reasons for their deeds. That's pretty much part of the definition of terrorism - using violence in order to make a political entity do something you want. There's no "mislabeling" about it.

I agree that the rules and laws governing civil justice in the US - some of which are, as I've argued before on these boards, seriously exaggerated in favour of the defendant - shouldn't apply to al Qaeda prisoners captured abroad, though, and trying them in military courts may well be the best alternative. If they're captured in the US, otoh, I'm not sure what makes them different from e.g. Timothy McVeigh.
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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1274 Views
oO uhm, what? - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 742 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 762 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 757 Views
As it seems we will. - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 751 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 689 Views
Its to salve their conscinse - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 692 Views
That's exactly the problem! - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 700 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 688 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 722 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 618 Views
Spare me the bullshit. - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 613 Views
I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 743 Views
No, you won't. You never will. - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 607 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 697 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 624 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 657 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 676 Views
Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 656 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 769 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 698 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 640 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 679 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 710 Views
Yeah I guess you're right - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 634 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 812 Views
Once again, bullshit. - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 771 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 820 Views
You're wasting your time - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 668 Views
This is wrong - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 666 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 751 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 669 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 735 Views
That is bad - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 656 Views
You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 706 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 295 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 632 Views
The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 761 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 419 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 791 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 805 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 742 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 874 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 554 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 726 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 275 Views
Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 693 Views

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