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The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul Send a noteboard - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM

Which is why I touched on Casey and Roe.

That's not to say that I don't feel this way about a multitude of other issues which applied the same Roe/Casey idea of the "Raiders of the Lost Rights" judicial philosophy of hunting for and subsequently inventing rights in the constitution where none previously existed.

I'm happy to talk about those cases too, but none of them are the topic of this discussion.

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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1484 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 792 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 782 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 644 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 743 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 610 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 615 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 597 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 636 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 662 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 648 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 629 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 624 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 759 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 624 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 673 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 705 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 679 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 659 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 620 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 886 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 719 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 636 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 710 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 387 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 688 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 685 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 651 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 620 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 618 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 629 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 664 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 754 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 684 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 638 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 581 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 657 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 657 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 659 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 596 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 713 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 594 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 586 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 638 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 633 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 587 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 631 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 590 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 619 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 610 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 607 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 581 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 602 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 603 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 603 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 595 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 676 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 623 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 609 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 640 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 579 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 583 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 588 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 649 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 585 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 627 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 610 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 617 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 582 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 595 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 577 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 712 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 628 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 630 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 631 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 609 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 576 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 617 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 573 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 627 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 836 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 583 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 639 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 610 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 634 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 616 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 668 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 636 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 663 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 631 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 539 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 591 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 598 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 543 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 574 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 595 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 575 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 667 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 588 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 677 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 723 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 382 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 633 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 324 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 610 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 337 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 340 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 639 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 723 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 611 Views
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