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Indeed. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM

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And if there somehow were, it would make sense for there to be medical intervention to stop people from killing themselves.

Or even to stop people from simply being miserable.


It's almost like there's other ways to help people be happy. Almost like it shouldn't be "binary" choice between "suicide" and "self-mutilation".

Almost like you're supposed to grow up and eventually learn to accept yourself.

Almost like humanity has for hundreds of thousands of years.

But I'm the crazy one with the mental illness, yep; transphobia.

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“Can you imagine our reading that James Madison or Thomas Jefferson tried to overthrow the gov't?" TyrReborn - 03/08/2023 09:02:48 PM 1109 Views
I'm curious as to your point in posting this. damookster - 04/08/2023 03:17:48 AM 490 Views
The point is that these uneducated dumbass race-baiters dare to lecture us TyrReborn - 04/08/2023 05:33:36 PM 476 Views
. . . The Shrike - 05/08/2023 02:14:20 PM 469 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view TyrReborn - 05/08/2023 04:24:33 PM 485 Views
You only think your view is realistic because you haven't studied enough history. The Shrike - 06/08/2023 04:04:34 PM 497 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view. *NM* TyrReborn - 06/08/2023 09:18:39 PM 211 Views
Not only is this statistically incorrect, it's historically incorrect. Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:35:42 PM 465 Views
Sigh, I understand that it's hard to grasp these days, with our medical miracles, TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:52:01 PM 468 Views
Disease is counted as part of wartime casualties. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:17:53 PM 470 Views
And Covid killed 1000000 Americans lol TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:49:02 PM 452 Views
You didn't cherry pick anything. You just decided that the consensus of experts is incorrect. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:37:05 PM 452 Views
Died of =/= died from, and died during =/= killed TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 04:58:08 PM 453 Views
I don't think so Tom - 07/08/2023 01:54:05 PM 514 Views
These facts would cause you to be denounced as a "putinite fascist"... TyrReborn - 07/08/2023 05:45:05 PM 468 Views
Well, of course it's going to pass Tom - 07/08/2023 06:55:12 PM 493 Views
Tom, you are being far too reasonable. That doesn’t fly in 2023! *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 12:22:49 AM 216 Views
He is, which is why, I think, he is wrong. *NM* TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 10:18:32 PM 219 Views
I just can't buy that the political and academic class will give up their grip so easily. TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 05:49:58 PM 449 Views
Academics have been pro Marxism for over 100 years. It's nothing new. *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 05:59:55 PM 214 Views
Maybe. But they've never been this spiteful or spoiled before. TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 01:29:30 PM 431 Views
No, they only recruited students to spy for the Soviets *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:18:58 PM 208 Views
Yes. They do that now, too. Except it's the Chinese. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:51:37 PM 212 Views
Do you have sources for that 'far more conservative and far more religious' claim? Legolas - 09/08/2023 07:35:50 PM 466 Views
In regards to more conservative, The Shrike - 09/08/2023 08:35:03 PM 491 Views
You see all this fury because a random dude on the internet calls a dude a dude TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 03:31:00 PM 450 Views
I side with Greg and Tom in this discussion. damookster - 08/08/2023 05:57:54 PM 450 Views
I don't suppose linking medical articles is going to help too much here, but... Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:28:05 PM 492 Views
Elizabeth, you know I have a non binary grandchild. damookster - 09/08/2023 01:22:32 AM 502 Views
Yeah, I know, I just think that the statistics are dangerous. Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 04:36:40 AM 457 Views
Respectfully, do you truly believe this? TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 05:42:31 PM 458 Views
I'll bite... Legolas - 09/08/2023 06:39:46 PM 453 Views
Thanks. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 08:27:13 PM 213 Views
Your thoughts AgentApple - 11/08/2023 04:14:37 PM 441 Views
Yes, that's true. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:11:49 PM 475 Views
Re: Yes, that's true. AgentApple - 12/08/2023 04:25:28 PM 439 Views
The issue itself isn't necessarily - the way it's being used, however, is. Legolas - 14/08/2023 05:44:35 PM 450 Views
This is not bait, I am legitimately trying to understand. And if I understand correctly... TyrReborn - 11/08/2023 05:17:02 PM 467 Views
As I said, it wasn't intended as perfect analogy - it's about how much say should children have. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:44:33 PM 472 Views
No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:43:37 PM 448 Views
There aren't a lot of people committing suicide over their teeth coming in. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:21:29 PM 459 Views
Indeed. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM 436 Views
You aren't mentally ill because of your views. You're just an asshole. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:35:13 PM 466 Views
Re: No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. Legolas - 15/08/2023 04:14:57 PM 482 Views
See, you're willing to discuss, instead of insult. Others on this board might take note. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:18:39 PM 465 Views
Yeah, well, I have the luxury of an outsider's position... Legolas - 23/08/2023 11:47:24 PM 475 Views
Nobody is an outsider when reality is being attacked. TyrReborn - 25/08/2023 05:40:43 PM 458 Views
Fun facts Vodalus - 26/08/2023 06:22:57 AM 506 Views
There's some evidence that hormonal changes in utero are related to transgenderism. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/08/2023 11:26:21 PM 206 Views
Naturally occurring or iatrogenic? *NM* Vodalus - 26/08/2023 11:37:06 PM 215 Views
The studies are about naturally occuring variance, but that doesn't rule out other causes. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:03:16 AM 209 Views
Not really "fun" so much as "a sad reality of biology", but yes. TyrReborn - 27/08/2023 09:42:14 PM 468 Views
Imagine if you had the same attitude towards trans people. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:02:34 AM 450 Views
I may be no endocrinologist, but I at least understand simple biology. XY =/= XX =/= XXY TyrReborn - 28/08/2023 05:40:14 PM 432 Views
One can be an adult trans person and not support mutilation of children. *NM* damookster - 28/08/2023 07:49:32 PM 209 Views
Fair enough. I have some measure of respect for "Caitlyn" Jenner. You do you homie. *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:54:13 AM 203 Views
Simple is definitely true. Shame you never learned biology past what you were taught in high school. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 11:21:38 PM 448 Views
Right, cause we're "butterflies" TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:57:20 AM 435 Views
I go to mass more than you. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/08/2023 09:58:09 AM 210 Views
Wow, really? And you still mutilated your body and told God that He was wrong about you? TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:44:32 PM 434 Views
I must say, The Shrike - 31/08/2023 07:04:47 PM 463 Views
Love is being true. Love is being honest. Love is God. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:52:59 PM 442 Views
I appreciate that a great deal. Thank you. I think very highly of you, too. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:44:58 AM 211 Views
Really went off the deep end there huh... Legolas - 31/08/2023 10:39:02 PM 434 Views
At least my beliefs can't be disproven by a $40 test at Wal-Mart. TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:40:43 PM 432 Views
It's ok. Many of us are quite sad for you too. The Shrike - 29/08/2023 11:10:32 AM 444 Views
I couldn't care less what unbelievers think. You'll meet the Truth, one day. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:45:31 PM 439 Views
No such thing as damnation, but thanks. The Shrike - 31/08/2023 06:55:23 PM 440 Views
Then nothing more needs to be said. See who support your lies, Ghav? They literally deny Love. *NM* TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:54:23 PM 194 Views
He understands love a lot better than you do. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:46:14 AM 197 Views
Hah! I knew you didn't worship God. Thanks for admitting it. *NM* TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:38:43 PM 205 Views
You're simply acting deranged at this point. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 01:13:20 AM 470 Views
I hope you don't call yourselves Christian. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:11:06 AM 412 Views
Of course I'm Christian. I confess the faith of the apostles and of the councils. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 11:41:56 AM 432 Views
Would you castrate Michelangelo's David? TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:03:07 PM 420 Views
Dude, you have really driven this off the deep end. damookster - 03/09/2023 04:03:16 PM 433 Views
It is not, and I am not. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:06:48 PM 449 Views
You absolutely are damookster - 03/09/2023 09:27:00 PM 416 Views
Caution is not condemnation. Warning is not judgment. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:05:17 PM 432 Views
Bro, I'm not worried about your immortal soul. damookster - 03/09/2023 11:35:41 PM 447 Views
I get that. But Ghav, supposedly, is. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:09:55 AM 450 Views
You’ve expressed some pretty odious and ugly sentiments. Vodalus - 03/09/2023 10:07:51 PM 449 Views
Yeah, I'm definitely an outsider, and so are you. Legolas - 28/08/2023 07:49:48 PM 428 Views
Ok. TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:09:14 AM 436 Views
Schizophrenics suffer violent crime at 14x rate. Is America "schizophobic"? TyrReborn - 01/09/2023 05:01:18 PM 433 Views
I'll chew... entyti - 11/08/2023 10:35:45 PM 462 Views
What's your stance on parents who refuse medical treatment for their children with cancer? Ghavrel - 11/08/2023 11:12:21 PM 472 Views
I think... entyti - 11/08/2023 11:37:52 PM 469 Views
Really? damookster - 12/08/2023 12:02:12 AM 453 Views
Am I being unreasonable? entyti - 12/08/2023 05:16:06 AM 485 Views
Maybe not damookster - 12/08/2023 03:38:50 PM 479 Views
Most of us don't really like "the gays," either. And referring to people as "blacks" is offensive. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:34:32 AM 206 Views
... is referring to people as "whites" offensive? I really, really hope you say yes. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:46:07 PM 256 Views
Unfortunately for whites, gays, blacks, and transgenders... entyti - 14/08/2023 06:09:47 PM 446 Views
Their voice only counts *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:20:32 PM 200 Views
Touché *NM* entyti - 14/08/2023 07:12:54 PM 200 Views
You can always choose not to be a dick online. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:19:52 PM 191 Views
Now why would I want to do that? entyti - 14/08/2023 11:24:09 PM 437 Views
You're not a dick. You're honest. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:54:34 PM 461 Views
Why not both? entyti - 15/08/2023 03:01:58 AM 448 Views
Sad, but true. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:22:11 PM 439 Views
Re: I think... Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:35:05 AM 473 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 12/08/2023 03:49:47 PM 495 Views
Re: I'll chew... entyti - 14/08/2023 10:56:15 PM 443 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 15/08/2023 11:32:12 PM 464 Views
3 weeks later, did you have fun with this thread Tyr? *NM* Roland00 - 28/08/2023 08:16:13 PM 209 Views
We went a bit afield, sure, but hey, the board has a discussion going, doesn't it? *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:00:03 AM 191 Views
Well take care Roland00 - 31/08/2023 11:06:43 PM 468 Views
Same to you. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:20:19 AM 443 Views
Seeing things as beautiful or rotting Roland00 - 03/09/2023 05:21:50 PM 452 Views
I could not disagree more. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:13:31 PM 457 Views
See this is about you Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:22:53 PM 451 Views
No, it's about God. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:28:55 PM 443 Views
How much history do you know about Samaritans? Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:39:54 PM 440 Views
Friend, you can cut the shit. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:19:56 AM 435 Views
I was going to talk about Mount Gerizim you nitwit Roland00 - 04/09/2023 01:36:16 AM 447 Views
Oh, my apologies then. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 07:46:57 PM 452 Views
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