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Caution is not condemnation. Warning is not judgment. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 03/09/2023 11:05:17 PM

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As Paul wrote to the Corinthians, "who has known the mind of The Lord so as to instruct him. But we have the mind of Christ."

Indeed! Jesus taught us, and he taught us that "if anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."

We know what God says on this. Do not mislead the little ones. Leave. Kids. Alone.



The mind of God, for believers, is beyond our comprehension. We can't grasp it. But we have the mind of Christ in the sense of the accounts of his words and actions. Ans as Paul also wrote, "Let each person examine his own work, and then he can take pride in himself alone, and not compare himself with someone else."

Yes, none of us can know the Mind of God. But we know what God says on this. Do not mislead the little ones.

And yes, I am a sinner and I fully acknowledge it. There is much I am wrong on, of that I have no doubt. I'm here not to say "I am better than you" to anyone, but I must say "Ghav, your soul is in serious danger".


So in other words, worry about your own lack of compassion and not the choices made by others who are trying to serve God.

I am doing this because of my compassion. Ghav said I will "have to deal with more of (us) in Heaven" and, in all honesty, I truly, sincerely hope Ghav is right.

But I have serious concerns that Ghav is deadly wrong.

If Ghav believed I were doing something that put my soul in danger of condemnation, I would want Ghav to do everything they could to convince me of that. "Treat others how you want to be treated" is how I try to live my life.

And I can honestly say that if the roles were reversed I would be grateful to the person constantly trying to help me see.

And I can say this because the roles were reversed. Not the exact same, but you know. I was self-harming and deeply depressed. But harming what God gave me is not the answer to my problems. And lying about who I am is not, either.

This message last edited by TyrReborn on 03/09/2023 at 11:08:31 PM
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I'm curious as to your point in posting this. damookster - 04/08/2023 03:17:48 AM 674 Views
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You're entitled to your optimistic view. *NM* TyrReborn - 06/08/2023 09:18:39 PM 288 Views
Not only is this statistically incorrect, it's historically incorrect. Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:35:42 PM 640 Views
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He is, which is why, I think, he is wrong. *NM* TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 10:18:32 PM 304 Views
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Yes. They do that now, too. Except it's the Chinese. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:51:37 PM 289 Views
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The issue itself isn't necessarily - the way it's being used, however, is. Legolas - 14/08/2023 05:44:35 PM 606 Views
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Indeed. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM 582 Views
You aren't mentally ill because of your views. You're just an asshole. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:35:13 PM 627 Views
Re: No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. Legolas - 15/08/2023 04:14:57 PM 645 Views
See, you're willing to discuss, instead of insult. Others on this board might take note. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:18:39 PM 628 Views
Yeah, well, I have the luxury of an outsider's position... Legolas - 23/08/2023 11:47:24 PM 637 Views
Nobody is an outsider when reality is being attacked. TyrReborn - 25/08/2023 05:40:43 PM 612 Views
Fun facts Vodalus - 26/08/2023 06:22:57 AM 673 Views
There's some evidence that hormonal changes in utero are related to transgenderism. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/08/2023 11:26:21 PM 282 Views
Naturally occurring or iatrogenic? *NM* Vodalus - 26/08/2023 11:37:06 PM 296 Views
The studies are about naturally occuring variance, but that doesn't rule out other causes. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:03:16 AM 302 Views
Not really "fun" so much as "a sad reality of biology", but yes. TyrReborn - 27/08/2023 09:42:14 PM 632 Views
Imagine if you had the same attitude towards trans people. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:02:34 AM 612 Views
I may be no endocrinologist, but I at least understand simple biology. XY =/= XX =/= XXY TyrReborn - 28/08/2023 05:40:14 PM 586 Views
One can be an adult trans person and not support mutilation of children. *NM* damookster - 28/08/2023 07:49:32 PM 284 Views
Fair enough. I have some measure of respect for "Caitlyn" Jenner. You do you homie. *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:54:13 AM 278 Views
Simple is definitely true. Shame you never learned biology past what you were taught in high school. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 11:21:38 PM 608 Views
Right, cause we're "butterflies" TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:57:20 AM 599 Views
I go to mass more than you. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/08/2023 09:58:09 AM 289 Views
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I must say, The Shrike - 31/08/2023 07:04:47 PM 655 Views
Love is being true. Love is being honest. Love is God. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:52:59 PM 610 Views
I appreciate that a great deal. Thank you. I think very highly of you, too. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:44:58 AM 302 Views
Really went off the deep end there huh... Legolas - 31/08/2023 10:39:02 PM 581 Views
At least my beliefs can't be disproven by a $40 test at Wal-Mart. TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:40:43 PM 582 Views
It's ok. Many of us are quite sad for you too. The Shrike - 29/08/2023 11:10:32 AM 607 Views
I couldn't care less what unbelievers think. You'll meet the Truth, one day. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:45:31 PM 602 Views
No such thing as damnation, but thanks. The Shrike - 31/08/2023 06:55:23 PM 604 Views
Then nothing more needs to be said. See who support your lies, Ghav? They literally deny Love. *NM* TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:54:23 PM 296 Views
He understands love a lot better than you do. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:46:14 AM 291 Views
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Would you castrate Michelangelo's David? TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:03:07 PM 581 Views
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It is not, and I am not. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:06:48 PM 615 Views
You absolutely are damookster - 03/09/2023 09:27:00 PM 593 Views
Caution is not condemnation. Warning is not judgment. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:05:17 PM 591 Views
Bro, I'm not worried about your immortal soul. damookster - 03/09/2023 11:35:41 PM 610 Views
I get that. But Ghav, supposedly, is. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:09:55 AM 618 Views
You’ve expressed some pretty odious and ugly sentiments. Vodalus - 03/09/2023 10:07:51 PM 598 Views
Yeah, I'm definitely an outsider, and so are you. Legolas - 28/08/2023 07:49:48 PM 597 Views
Ok. TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:09:14 AM 600 Views
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I'll chew... entyti - 11/08/2023 10:35:45 PM 642 Views
What's your stance on parents who refuse medical treatment for their children with cancer? Ghavrel - 11/08/2023 11:12:21 PM 643 Views
I think... entyti - 11/08/2023 11:37:52 PM 628 Views
Really? damookster - 12/08/2023 12:02:12 AM 593 Views
Am I being unreasonable? entyti - 12/08/2023 05:16:06 AM 644 Views
Maybe not damookster - 12/08/2023 03:38:50 PM 643 Views
Most of us don't really like "the gays," either. And referring to people as "blacks" is offensive. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:34:32 AM 287 Views
... is referring to people as "whites" offensive? I really, really hope you say yes. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:46:07 PM 333 Views
Unfortunately for whites, gays, blacks, and transgenders... entyti - 14/08/2023 06:09:47 PM 591 Views
Their voice only counts *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:20:32 PM 273 Views
Touché *NM* entyti - 14/08/2023 07:12:54 PM 276 Views
You can always choose not to be a dick online. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:19:52 PM 265 Views
Now why would I want to do that? entyti - 14/08/2023 11:24:09 PM 595 Views
You're not a dick. You're honest. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:54:34 PM 606 Views
Why not both? entyti - 15/08/2023 03:01:58 AM 618 Views
Sad, but true. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:22:11 PM 607 Views
Re: I think... Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:35:05 AM 615 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 12/08/2023 03:49:47 PM 655 Views
Re: I'll chew... entyti - 14/08/2023 10:56:15 PM 604 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 15/08/2023 11:32:12 PM 628 Views
3 weeks later, did you have fun with this thread Tyr? *NM* Roland00 - 28/08/2023 08:16:13 PM 295 Views
We went a bit afield, sure, but hey, the board has a discussion going, doesn't it? *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:00:03 AM 268 Views
Well take care Roland00 - 31/08/2023 11:06:43 PM 650 Views
Same to you. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:20:19 AM 600 Views
Seeing things as beautiful or rotting Roland00 - 03/09/2023 05:21:50 PM 619 Views
I could not disagree more. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:13:31 PM 621 Views
See this is about you Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:22:53 PM 622 Views
No, it's about God. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:28:55 PM 605 Views
How much history do you know about Samaritans? Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:39:54 PM 602 Views
Friend, you can cut the shit. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:19:56 AM 624 Views
I was going to talk about Mount Gerizim you nitwit Roland00 - 04/09/2023 01:36:16 AM 608 Views
Oh, my apologies then. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 07:46:57 PM 615 Views
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