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I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM
Female is the MEDICAL TERM FOR FEMALE.

It's like getting offended over the word vagina, or penis. Or breast.

And woman is not all inclusive. It does not include female children. Mare:woman::Filly:girl. Not to mention that, if I understand correctly, it's a term far more open to conflict with "gender issues".

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's because I'm a veterinary student and I spend all day calling things male/female/neutered/spayed/intact/whatever. I'm used to referring to things by their definitions. It's just making a mountain out of a molehill to me.

What I really do not understand is if the term female offends you so much..why does it make a difference whether it's used as a noun or an adjective? Why is okay to describe the gender of a group of individuals if they all have something else in common like profession or hobby? What if the only relevant commonality is their sex? I'm sorry, but I just don't see how Jens actually transgressed any rule besides "don't gross the tiny lines the PC police has drawn". He wasn't trying to be rude (English isn't even his first damned language) and he wasn't saying anything disparaging.

If you're going to make an issue out of the use of a term, at least have the sense to make sure it's a good example so that people don't just see you has being hypersensitive over nothing. Don't get me wrong, I understand that people use the term disparagingly (just like they use the term "male" disparagingly at times), but that can be done with almost any word. I can say "bananas coconuts and grapes" with a mocking voice and you'll know what I think of Tarzan of the Apes!!
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2402 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 1152 Views
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I grant that I haven't read the Hunger Games yet - 03/04/2012 05:10:38 PM 1109 Views
No, it's totally off. *NM* - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 968 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 903 Views
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Where do I start? - 03/04/2012 07:43:18 PM 1074 Views
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So? Hunger Games has lots of male characters. - 04/04/2012 05:30:21 AM 989 Views
His racism point... - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 889 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 965 Views
Why don't you think the Hunger Games are feminist? - 03/04/2012 11:17:53 PM 1079 Views
Why would I consider it to be femenist? - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 974 Views
I just don't consider feminism as something that has to be radical. - 04/04/2012 05:42:59 AM 1040 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 1025 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 992 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 1020 Views
Fair enough - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 1070 Views
Stop using female as a noun! - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 968 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 993 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 967 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 893 Views
Thank you! - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 1001 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 983 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 1030 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 935 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 909 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 1143 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 875 Views
That's not what I said. - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 1008 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 939 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 953 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 973 Views
Nope. (edit) - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 983 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 1043 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 914 Views
Ok. - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1226 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 982 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 980 Views
English is not French, and it's not German. Particularly the connotations of American English words - 06/04/2012 09:39:00 AM 1067 Views
LOL! You don't say... - 06/04/2012 05:06:20 PM 952 Views
LOL u so mad - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 935 Views
The prospect of "losing cred" is not going to stop me from speaking my mind. - 04/04/2012 10:30:03 PM 941 Views
My dear - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 1000 Views
LOL - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 819 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 808 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 952 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 934 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 919 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 938 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 967 Views
ooookay then. - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 1011 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 871 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 914 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 935 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 956 Views
Fascinating. - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 972 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 953 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 951 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 1013 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 891 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 922 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 918 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 1054 Views
Aha, we found the problem - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 1030 Views
You're being disingenuous. - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 936 Views
To be fair - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 967 Views
You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM 993 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 937 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 943 Views
This - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 937 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 924 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 978 Views
I think that might be debatable - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 962 Views
She still made plenty of choices and she did choose to kill. - 05/04/2012 07:13:47 PM 904 Views
The reviewer is kind of full of it, but makes a good point about the character - 04/04/2012 04:22:30 PM 1010 Views
Out of curiosity (this off topic) - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 909 Views
Rachel, of course. - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 990 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 1007 Views