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Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM
So you are saying that if anybody does anything at all, if there has been initial input by someone else than your work means nothing? Excuse me if I say BS! Lets take a real world example. I do warranty analysis for the people who make the NYC subway cars. The warranty team's job is to keep the trains running during the warranty period. Subway trains are incredibly complex pieces of machinery, software, and firmware with all kinds of systemic interlocks, communication and controllers. Some of our techs are absolutely brilliant diagnosticians who can get to the root of a difficult problem and determine how to fix it. If I tell one of these guy to fix the train, and he does, are you going to try to tell me that since I asked him to fix it that the repair isn't his but mine? And the credit goes to me? You gotta be kidding right?
Or take another example from my experience. I used to be a professional musician. Was in several small bands generally either quintets or sextets. Say someone hires us for a gig, small concert hall seating maybe 2000. It's a bad night, one guy has a bad cold, lead singer had a big fight with her boyfriend, the bass player wants to quit. We play terrible. But according to you our bad music would be the fault of the music director of the hall! Simply because he asked us to play there. I'm sorry but that idea is just plain nuts. I am responsible for my actions, my successes and my failures not someone else. And I be willing to bet that you'd scream bloody murder if some AS tried to take credit of something she asked someone else to do.

NaCl(pretty lame argument if you ask me)H2O
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1255 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 841 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 510 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 861 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 827 Views
Really? - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 797 Views
Re: Really? - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 755 Views
So lets add a few more - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 761 Views
most of these are accounted for above - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 822 Views
But who did the work? - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 664 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 684 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 702 Views
Actually I think that's his point - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 794 Views
Spot-on - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 612 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 650 Views
Re: But who did the work? - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 739 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 757 Views
well, yeah - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 782 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 688 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 682 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 643 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 685 Views
I'm not convinced that it does - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 785 Views
I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 704 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 757 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 692 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 908 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 678 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 689 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 631 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 710 Views
No you are talking about Elaida - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 642 Views
You just made our point... - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 719 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 619 Views
Not at all... - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 740 Views
To a certain extent - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 877 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 715 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 828 Views
Without the Tower - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 623 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 663 Views
Agrees with Nossy - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 958 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 632 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 980 Views

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