I don't recall if there was ever any discussion of this, in TSR when it happened or later when the two went to Salidar.
There wasn't except allusions that Siuan felt guilty for Leanne's fate, because Leanne would have none of that and always stood by her decision to cover up Siuan's secret dealings with ta'veren the Hall deemed dangerous. She didn't know the secrets, but she very well knew Siuan was secretely scheming with Moiraine and others, and she turned a blind eye to that by choice/loyalty. The Hall might have considered her all the more guilty/irresponsible for covering up schemes she knew were ongoing but didn't know the nature of, except they involved individuals and situations that worried the Hall.
There wasn't any trial because Alviarin well knew that the "stilling offenses" against Siuan and Leanne (freeing Taim etc. - Elaida can't lie, so she must have gotten false evidence of some kind or another to bring up that accusation. Likely Alviarin cooked up something about sisters Siuan had sent to capture Taim not unlike the lies Siuan cooked up later against Elaida and the Reds) were invented and would fall apart in a trial in which Siuan, who can't lie, could flat out answer any questions from the Hall about that, leaving only her secret dealings with the ta'veren and having made all sort of executive decisions concerning TDR without involving the Hall (and where she was within her power and where she wasn't is a very murky area at best. We just don't know.). Siuan's actions probably justified her removal from office, or the Hall would have tried to blackmail her into becoming their puppet, but it's the stole Elaida wanted, and the others were seemingly blinded by the influence over the course of events and decisions they thought they'd get by electing her in such a weak position, as evidenced by their "council" later on, and to make that happen they were quite content to break the rules about Siuan's trial. They probably suspected all along that Siuan might wriggle out of the accusations if they let her defend herself, at least enough to deadlock the Hall. Their minds were made that she had to go and Elaida had to be elected in her place, so they overlooked the law. The sentence of stilling was most likely pronounced not with Justice in mind, but in the full knowledge thay their position was weak and they had make sure there wasn't any way to undo what they were about to do. They probably didn't foresee the split, but they sure foresaw that a pro-Siuan faction would fight back, but they thought by stilling Siuan they killed its chances in the bud and they would reconcile themselves to Elaida's election. The other related reason to expedite Siuan's trial was of course that Elaida's cabal didn't want to risk the full Hall to be assembled, so they expedited the removal, the election, the secret trials and sentences all in one sitting. The sentence itself was apparently carried out in secret as well.
This message last edited by DomA on 11/05/2010 at 03:47:06 PM
Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
- 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
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The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
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That's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
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No, THAT's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
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You seem to deal in bad analogies...
- 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
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You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
- 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
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Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
- 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
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Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan
*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
- 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
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Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
- 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
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All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
- 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
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They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
- 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
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"They"?
- 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
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Good point ...
- 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
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Re: Good point ...
- 11/05/2010 03:43:43 PM
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I don't know if I agree with this
- 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
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I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
- 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
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She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
- 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
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The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
- 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
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This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
- 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
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I don't really agree
- 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
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I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
- 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
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I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
- 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
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In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
- 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
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Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
- 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
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Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
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Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
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The Reds aren't petty
- 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
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Are you kidding?
- 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
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Unless of course there is truth to it
- 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
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There is none.
- 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
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Uhhh?
- 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
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...
- 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
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Re: ...
- 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
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Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
- 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
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*sigh*
- 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
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So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
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On the minority thing...
- 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
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That's exactly the problem.
- 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
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Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
- 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
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Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
- 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
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why so pissy?
- 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
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Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
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Interesting.
- 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
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Re: Interesting.
- 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
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No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
- 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
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There may be one explanation...
- 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
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That doesn't make sense.
- 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
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it was about more than just male channelers
- 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
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Yes, that's true.
- 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
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I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
- 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
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That's also true.
- 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
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Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
- 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
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No, I don't think so
- 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
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