If not, I suggest you reread The Gathering Storm. I am fairly confident that you will find that politicking and Ajah pride occupy a significantly greater portion of Aes Sedai priorities than Tarmon Gai'don, the Seanchan or the Black Tower, combined.
You are so clearly, massively and demonstrably wrong that it becomes difficult to properly express. In a series of thus far twelve books, the Tower division has been an important subplot for nine. I cannot believe that you have actually missed such a core fraction of the storyline, so I must assume you simply fail to comprehend what it is about. In short, Aes Sedai wage war against one another because of Aes Sedai's injured pride. If Tarmon Gai'don had been their priority, they would have waited until after the potential end of the world to settle their silly political squabble. That is what would have happened in the Borderlands according to Bashere, where fighting the Shadow is a priority. But that is evidently not the case with the White Tower. That you actually assert this to be the case is mind-blowing.
And really, there are numerous quotes that demonstrate that the Red Ajah does care about this issue, the most flagrant one being Pevara in The Extra Bit as I have referred before. I have no idea how you can expect me to actually swallow an outright fabrication like "The Red ajah clearly don't care about this".
EDIT: Okay, on further thought, I have come to a solution in which you didn't fail to notice or understand a significant portion of the series (which made no sense to me anyway, given that I know that you should be suitably aware of this), is it possible that you, like Cannoli was, are under the assumption that I expect something to happen about this in upcoming books? Because I obviously don't. The perfect timing for this to be addressed was in The Gathering Storm, and I was expressing frustration and incredulity that it was never brought up then, as displayed by my use of past tenses and reference to Elaida (who is now in Seanchan hands).
You are so clearly, massively and demonstrably wrong that it becomes difficult to properly express. In a series of thus far twelve books, the Tower division has been an important subplot for nine. I cannot believe that you have actually missed such a core fraction of the storyline, so I must assume you simply fail to comprehend what it is about. In short, Aes Sedai wage war against one another because of Aes Sedai's injured pride. If Tarmon Gai'don had been their priority, they would have waited until after the potential end of the world to settle their silly political squabble. That is what would have happened in the Borderlands according to Bashere, where fighting the Shadow is a priority. But that is evidently not the case with the White Tower. That you actually assert this to be the case is mind-blowing.
And really, there are numerous quotes that demonstrate that the Red Ajah does care about this issue, the most flagrant one being Pevara in The Extra Bit as I have referred before. I have no idea how you can expect me to actually swallow an outright fabrication like "The Red ajah clearly don't care about this".
EDIT: Okay, on further thought, I have come to a solution in which you didn't fail to notice or understand a significant portion of the series (which made no sense to me anyway, given that I know that you should be suitably aware of this), is it possible that you, like Cannoli was, are under the assumption that I expect something to happen about this in upcoming books? Because I obviously don't. The perfect timing for this to be addressed was in The Gathering Storm, and I was expressing frustration and incredulity that it was never brought up then, as displayed by my use of past tenses and reference to Elaida (who is now in Seanchan hands).
But they don't care. Seriously, where has anyone (including Egwene) mentioned that this problem is going to haunt them?
Despite being in the middle of a serious rebellion, the Reds themselves only care about getting a reign on the Black Tower. How can you possibly claim that the squabbling of the Hall is of greater concern to anyone compared to the three enormous events I mentioned. Most Aes Sedai have let sleeping dogs lie, including the Blues who were disbanded. This is the actual core of what's going on.
I'm also not deluded about the meaning of your post. I'm trying to tell you that you find it obvious and confusing that something should have happened about it already, but I'm telling you it DIDN'T because no one cares.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
- 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
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The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
1372 Views
That's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
1338 Views
No, THAT's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
1230 Views
You seem to deal in bad analogies...
- 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
1230 Views
You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
- 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
1094 Views
Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
- 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
1102 Views
Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan
*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
587 Views
Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
- 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
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Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
- 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
540 Views
All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
- 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
1284 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
1218 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
1121 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
- 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
1255 Views
"They"?
- 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
1160 Views
Good point ...
- 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
1333 Views
I don't know if I agree with this
- 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
1207 Views
I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
- 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
1115 Views
She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
- 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
1067 Views
The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
- 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
1145 Views
This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
- 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
1141 Views
I don't really agree
- 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
1105 Views
I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
- 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
1102 Views
I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
- 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
1165 Views
In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
- 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
1139 Views
Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
- 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
1027 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
654 Views
Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
598 Views
The Reds aren't petty
- 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
1006 Views
Are you kidding?
- 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
1182 Views
Unless of course there is truth to it
- 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
1156 Views
There is none.
- 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
1133 Views
Uhhh?
- 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
1037 Views
...
- 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
1200 Views
Re: ...
- 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
1104 Views
Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
- 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
1123 Views
*sigh*
- 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
1196 Views
So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
1059 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
1088 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
1182 Views
On the minority thing...
- 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
1148 Views
That's exactly the problem.
- 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
997 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
- 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
1156 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
- 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
965 Views
why so pissy?
- 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
1136 Views
Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
977 Views
Interesting.
- 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
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Re: Interesting.
- 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
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No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
- 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
689 Views
There may be one explanation...
- 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
1049 Views
That doesn't make sense.
- 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
1185 Views
it was about more than just male channelers
- 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
1247 Views
Yes, that's true.
- 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
1218 Views
I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
- 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
1109 Views
That's also true.
- 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
1074 Views
Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
1070 Views
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
1070 Views
AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
- 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
1065 Views
No, I don't think so
- 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
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