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On Mat's "death" Etzel Send a noteboard - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM
***Brandon*** Re: Mat's dying. In the books, Mat says that he's "Pretty Sure" that he'd already died. So use that as a guide.

***Brandon*** Re: Another Mat being hung confirmation. Like I said, Mat's pretty sure that counted for him dying. He really doesn't want to try anything like that again...


BS strongly indicates here that the Aelfinn's Prophecy about Mat dying and living again was actually fulfilled, when he was hanged, not when he was balefired (RJ RAFOed the question, if Mat died when he was hanged or when he was balefired, before).

Since Mat wasn't truly dead then, it strengthens the idea that also Rand doesn't literally has to die to live, but e.g. will just fake his death by being temporarily put into a death-like coma via a OP stasis weave. This would fulfill the Prophecy as well.
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2293 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1408 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1247 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 1185 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 1228 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 1184 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 1087 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 1191 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 1155 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 1129 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 1161 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 1069 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 1026 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 997 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1214 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 961 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 1116 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 1064 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 1125 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 1020 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 1026 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 1102 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 1222 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 988 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 1089 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1303 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 1010 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 1220 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 1090 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1277 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 1130 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 1203 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 1079 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 1188 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 1025 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 1226 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 1094 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 1080 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 1178 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 1084 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 1169 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 488 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 903 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 1046 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 1071 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 1021 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 1006 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 1103 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 1203 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 1159 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1242 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 1233 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 1066 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 1137 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 998 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 1080 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 971 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 1026 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 1080 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 1033 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 1133 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 1150 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 1036 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 1199 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 1139 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 1195 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 954 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 982 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 1192 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 1107 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 1074 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1260 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 1050 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 514 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 1156 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 1012 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 1033 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 1155 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 1005 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 993 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 1031 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1258 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 988 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 1130 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 1111 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 1036 Views
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