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Or, as with Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM
BS even said that he doesn't want to give a "Graendal is toast"- confirmation "yet" (but after ToM, he will), that only Graendal's name will be mentioned a few times in ToM , and that after the book, we will know her fate.

This strongly indicates that other Forsaken will muse on Graendal's death, like e.g. other Forsaken mused about Sammael's death after ACoS. Nothing suggests a Graendal PoV in a flashback; it's most unlikely.


No one will know where she is, while she continues to operate from another base. That way she can appear at her own choosing.

After all, BS can honestly have her name mentioned a few times in ToM because she doesn't appear at all in that book, just to have her re-appear in the next book. I.E. He can't confirm that Graendal is dead because she is not, and won't be until the final book in the series.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Sidious - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 2051 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 1011 Views
Too convulted...... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1148 Views
The logic is rather... Etzel - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 913 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? Artsapat - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1083 Views
Indeed... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 999 Views
Re: Indeed... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 1028 Views
That is wrong Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 864 Views
Re: That is wrong Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 960 Views
It's not at all... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 865 Views
Plus... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 797 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. Logain - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 871 Views
exactly darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 887 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? Lohikaarme - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 934 Views
sorry but no dacole - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 996 Views
Exactly Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 858 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 479 Views
Actually... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 905 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 1053 Views
It makes perfect sense. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 917 Views
I won't be 100% sure she's dead until we get a solid "she's toast" from either the text darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:21:18 PM 926 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 612 Views
Until I have absolute proof to the contrary.(Confirmation by Harriot or BS) krassos - 13/07/2010 04:20:49 PM 843 Views
If Graendal didn't know Rand would use balefire, why would she have Delana do the Compulsion? beetnemesis - 13/07/2010 04:57:10 PM 1095 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 1002 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 986 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 885 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Underwood - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 963 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 581 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* Underwood - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 476 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 965 Views
Huh Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 946 Views
Why did the lair explode? Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 891 Views
*NM* Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 630 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. Mik - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 1079 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 793 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 886 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1068 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 837 Views
Provide a quote. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 976 Views
read the chapter darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 795 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 919 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 1013 Views
Was that what I asked for? Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 768 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 804 Views
Oh if that's what you want darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 939 Views
Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 06:57:39 PM 852 Views
Re: Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 09:20:10 PM 847 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 807 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 776 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 892 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 944 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 937 Views
Which ones? Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 823 Views
Re: Which ones? Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 921 Views
Well. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 797 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 898 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 938 Views
Thanks for the quote. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 1010 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 815 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion BlackAdder - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 838 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 956 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 742 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 983 Views
No. Don't think so. Tom - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 804 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 971 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 861 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 961 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 877 Views
Yip Sidious - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 866 Views
Lame. eucatastrophe - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 810 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 763 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* Yunalesca - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 520 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 812 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 898 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 1001 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* Lord Haart - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 308 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1104 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Underwood - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 918 Views
Honestly, if she's still alive, how is she going to die? Gher - 16/07/2010 05:49:06 AM 761 Views
Ahh, just remembered that some people think some Forsaken will survive Tarmon Gai'don. Still... *NM* Gher - 16/07/2010 05:51:41 AM 415 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? scooter - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 795 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 784 Views
Because he was right, that's why. Terez - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 793 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 733 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible Terez - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 1015 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 893 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* scooter - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 895 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 845 Views
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