Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
dacole Send a noteboard - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM
I disagree since she was killed by rand she is directly part of his plotline. Now how exactly can we have a revel of her as the killer when it HAS BEEN SAID that the KILLER will be revealing it themself. When she is dead and we know she won't be getting a flashback. Moraine killed him (slayer is ridiculous sorry eztal).
I would love for you to give more detail on how the scenes you imagine would play out.
a better candidate as Asmodean's killer. Which it does not. There are plenty of ways to reveal Graendal as the culprit even if she is dead AND there are NO flashbacks.
There are dozens of ways to incorporate a Graendal scene from another POV that is NOT in Rand's plot line. Aran'gar could be near Elayne, Mat or Perrin and have such a flashback. Mesaana could have a chat with Demandred. Moridin could inform Cyndane and/or Moghedien of Graendal's death (or escape if that's how it plays out), there could even be another Social prior to Rand Balefiring NB.
Just because BSand said there won't be as much flashback as book 10 doesn't mean Graendal won't appear, you can't even claim she's even part of Rand's plot line! For most of the series she's not been involved directly in any of the main cast's plot lines.
He's been vague on her death since the beginning and has even alluded to her possibly being alive, which could mean she has a live appearance after the events at NB.
I would love for you to give more detail on how the scenes you imagine would play out.
Such a scene would precisely be a flashback in Rand's plot-/ timeline, especially if we would get the PoV from Graendal just before Rand's balefire hit her palace. It's clear from his answers, that BS won't jump back in Rand's plotline.
a better candidate as Asmodean's killer. Which it does not. There are plenty of ways to reveal Graendal as the culprit even if she is dead AND there are NO flashbacks.
There are dozens of ways to incorporate a Graendal scene from another POV that is NOT in Rand's plot line. Aran'gar could be near Elayne, Mat or Perrin and have such a flashback. Mesaana could have a chat with Demandred. Moridin could inform Cyndane and/or Moghedien of Graendal's death (or escape if that's how it plays out), there could even be another Social prior to Rand Balefiring NB.
Just because BSand said there won't be as much flashback as book 10 doesn't mean Graendal won't appear, you can't even claim she's even part of Rand's plot line! For most of the series she's not been involved directly in any of the main cast's plot lines.
He's been vague on her death since the beginning and has even alluded to her possibly being alive, which could mean she has a live appearance after the events at NB.
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- 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM
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This...
- 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM
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how do you get there from this?
- 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM
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Because...
- 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM
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the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
- 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM
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Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
- 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM
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Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved
- 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM
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No...
- 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM
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so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok
- 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM
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Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM*
- 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM
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sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo
- 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM
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- 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM
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Again...
- 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM
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or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal
- 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM
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The point is...
- 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM
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that is 100% your interpretation
- 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM
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Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation.
- 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM
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I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line
- 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM
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As far as we know...
- 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM
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she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved
- 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM
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There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines...
- 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM
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Indeed
- 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM
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The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
- 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM
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give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong
- 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM
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I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear.
*NM*
- 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM
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*NM*
- 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM
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Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
- 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM
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It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
- 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM
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you keep trotting this point out like it matters
- 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM
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a very irritating habit indeed!!
- 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM
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There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos!
- 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM
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where do you get this stuff from?
- 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM
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Eh, no
- 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM
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I disagree
- 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM
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Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar
- 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM
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pure interpretation
- 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM
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Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM*
- 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM
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No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM*
- 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM
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Exchanging info is not doing nothing
- 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
- 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
- 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM
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And...
- 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM
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you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she
- 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM
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Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR...
- 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM
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Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said).
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- 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM
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*NM*
- 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM
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You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen
- 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM
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Ok...
- 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM
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Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
- 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM
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But we never...
- 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM
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Re: But we never...
- 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM
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I think
- 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM
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Re: I think
- 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM
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Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM*
- 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM
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Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true.
- 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM
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I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM*
- 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM
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Because some people can't read...
- 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM
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Re: Because some people can't read...
- 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM
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Re: Because some people can't read...
- 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM
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Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age
- 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM
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I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM*
- 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM
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Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base
- 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM
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Uh...
- 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM
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On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous!
- 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM
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On Mat's "death"
- 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM
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Re: On Mat's "death"
- 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM
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I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A!
- 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM
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