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Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM
Why wasn't Liandrin able to use Compulsion then, even after she'd seen Moghedien's? She specifically says all that she'd been able to figure out (TFoH 34), quite clearly your idea that people can learn weaves just by seeing them is ridiculous. And Liandrin is much stronger than Delana, and Moghedien's Compulsion is far less intricate than Graendal's!

As for whe she would flee after Ramshalan's visit, I can't accept "but Graendal is smart!" as a valid reason. Intelligence does not grant omniscience.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Sidious - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 2254 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 1194 Views
Too convulted...... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1443 Views
The logic is rather... Etzel - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 1098 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? Artsapat - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1265 Views
Indeed... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 1176 Views
Re: Indeed... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 1245 Views
That is wrong Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 1088 Views
Re: That is wrong Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 1174 Views
It's not at all... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 1055 Views
Plus... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 993 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. Logain - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 1062 Views
exactly darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 1063 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? Lohikaarme - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 1126 Views
sorry but no dacole - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 1200 Views
Exactly Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 1040 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 572 Views
Actually... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 1085 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 1237 Views
It makes perfect sense. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 1100 Views
I won't be 100% sure she's dead until we get a solid "she's toast" from either the text darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:21:18 PM 1131 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 711 Views
Until I have absolute proof to the contrary.(Confirmation by Harriot or BS) krassos - 13/07/2010 04:20:49 PM 1029 Views
If Graendal didn't know Rand would use balefire, why would she have Delana do the Compulsion? beetnemesis - 13/07/2010 04:57:10 PM 1323 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 1195 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 1178 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 1093 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Underwood - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 1151 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 671 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* Underwood - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 562 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 1153 Views
Huh Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 1140 Views
Why did the lair explode? Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 1098 Views
*NM* Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 734 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. Mik - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 1281 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 991 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 1083 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1253 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 1018 Views
Provide a quote. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 1147 Views
read the chapter darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 980 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 1134 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 1208 Views
Was that what I asked for? Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 969 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 999 Views
Oh if that's what you want darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 1113 Views
Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 06:57:39 PM 1038 Views
Re: Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 09:20:10 PM 1026 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 1009 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 1023 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 1072 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 1121 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 1128 Views
Which ones? Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 1011 Views
Re: Which ones? Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 1104 Views
Well. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 987 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 1075 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 1161 Views
Thanks for the quote. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 1213 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 1013 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion BlackAdder - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 1006 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 1133 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 926 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 1175 Views
No. Don't think so. Tom - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 994 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 1163 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 1079 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 1147 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 1084 Views
Yip Sidious - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 1051 Views
Lame. eucatastrophe - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 987 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 949 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* Yunalesca - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 620 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 991 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 1086 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 1183 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* Lord Haart - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 403 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1391 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Underwood - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 1098 Views
Honestly, if she's still alive, how is she going to die? Gher - 16/07/2010 05:49:06 AM 1011 Views
Ahh, just remembered that some people think some Forsaken will survive Tarmon Gai'don. Still... *NM* Gher - 16/07/2010 05:51:41 AM 523 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? scooter - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 985 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 958 Views
Because he was right, that's why. Terez - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 960 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 940 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible Terez - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 1202 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 1102 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* scooter - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 1088 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 1025 Views
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