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Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM
IMHO, there's a fair possibility the ackwardness arose from the fact Graendal is dead by the end of TGS, but she won't be dead yet for the first half of TOM, and he didn't want to hint if she will make a return before she dies or not.


This is IMO the most likely case ... odds are she is dead, but we're going back far enough in the overall timeline that she'll still be kicking around for part of ToM ... I'd LOVE to see her death scene from her perspective!


The chapter would have to be written very carefully. The first time I saw her name I would assume that she'd survived, but it would take further reading to see that she had not even been attacked yet. Some readers might even think she's being attacked for the second time, LOL.


Where he did the same thing to her :P
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1013 Views
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