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Eh, no Etzel Send a noteboard - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM
Therefore, also the idea that Aran'gar and Delana would suddenly live in Graendal's palace is completely unsupported and unlikely (IMO, even absurd) speculation.

BS can answer plot points in other ways than bringing a character back in such a scene before the death. That would at least fit with the way the series is written.


There is plenty of indication that Aran'gar and Graendal have begun a more robust partnership than simply exchanging information! Aran'gar had all kinds of plans on how to utilize Graendal's contacts and is in the midst of re-establishing her base now that she's not with the Rebels. Graendal mentioned again in TGS that their association was "official" so clearly they have plans.


Graendal precisely just mentions that Aran'gar gives her informations. There is no further cooperation known to us. And it's even quite unlikely that both would trust each other than much. Remember that even Demandred, Semirhage and Mesaana don't work that closely together. And Aran'gar doesn't even know where Graendal's lair is.

Probably Aran'gar will just manage to take over Graendal's network eventually, after her death.
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2077 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1221 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1068 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 1003 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 1027 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 974 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 876 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 994 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 973 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 940 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 948 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 869 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 843 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 807 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1011 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 774 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 935 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 865 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 894 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 800 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 799 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 854 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 1013 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 785 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 908 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1099 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 827 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 1013 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 900 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1074 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 942 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 1008 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 896 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 995 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 820 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 1032 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 895 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 857 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 976 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 904 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 981 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 398 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 714 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 833 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 877 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 839 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 794 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 903 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 925 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 967 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1044 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 1018 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 895 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 903 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 817 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 888 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 784 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 834 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 887 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 850 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 959 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 945 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 873 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 987 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 944 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 983 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 771 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 781 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 999 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 924 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 888 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1051 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 843 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 429 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 964 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 830 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 851 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 967 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 827 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 763 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 845 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1078 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 785 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 899 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 932 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 848 Views
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