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Honestly, if she's still alive, how is she going to die? Gher Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 05:49:06 AM
Dying in some random battle doesn't really seem like an appropriate end for her. IMHO, Rand's unexpected tactic seems like one that should please the Graendal fans, because it's nothing she could be expected to plan for. If she'd died in a regular Forsaken Death, it'd be fairly underwhelming.

She's toast.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Sidious - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 2293 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 1233 Views
Too convulted...... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1478 Views
The logic is rather... Etzel - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 1138 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? Artsapat - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1317 Views
Indeed... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 1220 Views
Re: Indeed... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 1297 Views
That is wrong Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 1124 Views
Re: That is wrong Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 1225 Views
It's not at all... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 1091 Views
Plus... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 1035 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. Logain - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 1125 Views
exactly darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 1122 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? Lohikaarme - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 1164 Views
sorry but no dacole - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 1242 Views
Exactly Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 1091 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 603 Views
Actually... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 1124 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 1284 Views
It makes perfect sense. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 1150 Views
I won't be 100% sure she's dead until we get a solid "she's toast" from either the text darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:21:18 PM 1173 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 753 Views
Until I have absolute proof to the contrary.(Confirmation by Harriot or BS) krassos - 13/07/2010 04:20:49 PM 1070 Views
If Graendal didn't know Rand would use balefire, why would she have Delana do the Compulsion? beetnemesis - 13/07/2010 04:57:10 PM 1370 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 1227 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 1221 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 1142 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Underwood - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 1184 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 694 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* Underwood - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 591 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 1196 Views
Huh Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 1178 Views
Why did the lair explode? Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 1154 Views
*NM* Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 754 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. Mik - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 1325 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 1031 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 1120 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1296 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 1052 Views
Provide a quote. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 1185 Views
read the chapter darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 1030 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 1177 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 1254 Views
Was that what I asked for? Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 1000 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 1028 Views
Oh if that's what you want darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 1184 Views
Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 06:57:39 PM 1070 Views
Re: Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 09:20:10 PM 1055 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 1062 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 1061 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 1112 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 1167 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 1164 Views
Which ones? Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 1047 Views
Re: Which ones? Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 1151 Views
Well. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 1031 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 1113 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 1206 Views
Thanks for the quote. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 1252 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 1061 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion BlackAdder - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 1042 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 1171 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 962 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 1216 Views
No. Don't think so. Tom - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 1029 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 1201 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 1132 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 1199 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 1122 Views
Yip Sidious - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 1085 Views
Lame. eucatastrophe - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 1027 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 998 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* Yunalesca - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 663 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 1029 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 1125 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 1220 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* Lord Haart - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 423 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1431 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Underwood - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 1144 Views
Honestly, if she's still alive, how is she going to die? Gher - 16/07/2010 05:49:06 AM 1048 Views
Ahh, just remembered that some people think some Forsaken will survive Tarmon Gai'don. Still... *NM* Gher - 16/07/2010 05:51:41 AM 545 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? scooter - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 1021 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 999 Views
Because he was right, that's why. Terez - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 996 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 976 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible Terez - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 1246 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 1155 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* scooter - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 1125 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 1062 Views
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