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Re: I think Datakim Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM
The reason why a character, who died in a certain book, of course never got a PoV in the next books from before his death is that it would confuse many readers and just seems awkward writing, since it also doesn't advance the plot that well. If another PoV of this character were really needed, one could better include it immediately before the death in the same book; that would also better fit in the context than a jumping back in the timeline for this dead character in the next book. It could still happen, but it's highly unlikely.


I don't see it being anymore confusing than watching the Shaido (who already died once) get slaughtered again in the next book from a different perspective. We already know that there will be backtracking in the timeline with Perrin and Mat, so the readers are already prepared to the idea. A scene with Graendal which ends with her dying from a massive balefire, will be quite clear to everyone. People are not so stupid that they would be confused by that.

As for advancing the plot, there are many things that Graendals PoV could answer. Many ways that a scene from her could be used by BS for anything he wants.

I dunnno if it will happen but it could, it would not be that much more confusing than any other timejump backwards and it could advance the plot in whatever way BS/RJ wanted.
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2331 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1439 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1290 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 1223 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 1265 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 1221 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 1129 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 1227 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 1191 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 1164 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 1190 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 1109 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 1064 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 1038 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1251 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 994 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 1153 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 1106 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 1162 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 1065 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 1065 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 1141 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 1256 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 1028 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 1125 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1344 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 1043 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 1272 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 1122 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1309 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 1171 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 1238 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 1111 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 1225 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 1063 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 1259 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 1129 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 1119 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 1209 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 1122 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 1215 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 509 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 942 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 1086 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 1106 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 1059 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 1048 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 1134 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 1311 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 1193 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1282 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 1270 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 1103 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 1172 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 1034 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 1121 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 1008 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 1061 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 1119 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 1066 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 1161 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 1213 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 1067 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 1238 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 1177 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 1231 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 987 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 1040 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 1235 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 1144 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 1120 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1299 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 1095 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 534 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 1196 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 1044 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 1071 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 1192 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 1043 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 1036 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 1077 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1296 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 1031 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 1168 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 1149 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 1068 Views
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