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Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM
In Chapter 3 of ToM was made a clear distinction between the dream Egwene had about the Mesaana, the meaning of which Egwene felt immediately and knew it to be the right one, and the other two, including the one about the crystal sphere and Rand, which she couldn't interpret for the moment.

A bit later when she met Rand and he told her his plan for the seals, she thought about the crystal globe dream. But there's no mention here of Egwene being certain that's what the dream meant. If she was certain, why didn't she tell the Wise One about the dream?

She didn't tell Elayne and Nynaeve either, at least onscreen, even though both were reluctant to agree with her at first when she told him they need to oppose Rand's plan.
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2539 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1734 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1214 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1489 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1444 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1338 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 743 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1482 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1491 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1307 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1369 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1371 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1405 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1448 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1188 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1386 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1295 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 761 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1305 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1430 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1235 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1480 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1196 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1364 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1317 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1376 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1860 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1418 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1285 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1272 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1376 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1745 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1688 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1485 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1357 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 725 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1406 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1233 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1222 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1154 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1249 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 656 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1232 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1352 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1206 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1245 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1316 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1335 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1415 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1325 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1228 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1251 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1406 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1295 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1287 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1318 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1225 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1285 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1306 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1195 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1267 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1276 Views
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