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Interesting Werthead Send a noteboard - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM
1. Tor insisted this week once again that there are no pre-release copies, and that Jason is the only one who has access to the book.


Tor are not Orbit. Orbit are releasing the book across all Commonwealth territories and, although Tor will sell vastly more copies, Orbit theoretically have access to a bigger market. Orbit are sending a very few selected review copies to a few selected bloggers, although as far as I know apart from myself just about none of them are regular WoT fans and will be reviewing the book before release. I'm not sure if Ken or Pat fall into that category either (I imagine they'll be dealing with Tor). My review copy isn't expected until maybe a week before the street-date anyway, around the time the book will be hitting the shelves anyway.

2. That pre-release distribution of the book is a copyright infringement which Tor are serious about nailing down on. RAFO will become a focal point for every person who has messed with Tor, even if they have done so unwittingly.


I'm pretty sure it isn't a copyright violation at all. Issuing a book early happens all the time and is not a major problem unless it's a huge amount of time early (such as the month-early release of CoT in the UK in December 2002, which I know RJ was unhappy with). KoD was also on the shelves more than a week before the official release date (in the UK anyway), as was NEW SPRING. Unless you're JK Rowling or Dan Brown, enforcing street dates can be a really bad idea, if not handled correctly as Bantam UK recently discovered when they tried to enforce the DUST OF DREAMS release date with the net result bookshops refused to stock it until a week AFTER release as they couldn't have multiple 1,000-page hardcovers taking up their stock rooms and they missed out on the series possibly hitting (the lower reaches of) the bestseller lists for the first time.

3. Even if there are decent reviews, there are bound to be hoaxes and lies which will damage our reputation as posters or as a place with worthy content.


I think you are blowing this out of proportion. I was here (well, on Wotmania) when KoD came out and was a lurker at the time CoT did and don't recall the issues you outline here. I remember a few lame jokes which were obviously people having a laugh, but I do not recall anyone attempting to carry out a deliberate campaign of misinformation. I do recall the point-by-point, 100% accurate spoiler review someone posted about two weeks before KoD came out.

4. Risking our reputation and exposing the board to all manner of trash is not worth it when the book is coming out in 5 weeks anyway. We've had the Prologue and the first chapter, and to go beserk for the rest of the book is utterly pointless.


As others have said, no-one has to read the thread. I remember people regretting reading the KoD thread at the time (including me, as I didn't realise it would be a blow-by-blow summary of the book), but that's up to them. And as has been said, it's a specifically spoiler free situation.
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1762 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1103 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 523 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 1034 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 528 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 887 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 525 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 576 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 638 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 576 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 586 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 528 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 576 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 900 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 519 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 533 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 1014 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 540 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 917 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1202 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 506 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 513 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 521 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 562 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 912 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 571 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 854 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 525 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 524 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 520 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 495 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 947 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 905 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 894 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 553 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 975 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1437 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 944 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 1089 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 1027 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 938 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 912 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 1074 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1314 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 909 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1092 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 837 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 905 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 807 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 1029 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1146 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 939 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 1034 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 826 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 911 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 495 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 880 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 839 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 1010 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1096 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 894 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1156 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 959 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 902 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 542 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 502 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 509 Views

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