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this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM
Skill clearly sets the top 6 apart ... Ishamael, Lanfear, Demandred, Sammael, Graendal, Semirhage clearly had the best combination of Power, skill and savvy. Aginor and the others could have had more strength, but either skill or personality kept them from the highest rungs.

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How many standard deviations is Lanfear Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2325 Views
Well... vandevere - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1334 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1459 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff darius_sedai - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1297 Views
Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 1163 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 1207 Views
Re: DomA - 18/11/2012 11:07:17 PM 1382 Views
Re: Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:16:00 AM 1212 Views
Re: DomA - 19/11/2012 03:13:01 PM 1202 Views
They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1224 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% DomA - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1425 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 1178 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1259 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 1213 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1269 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 1149 Views
Keep believing that... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1295 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1248 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 1136 Views
No it's the literary device darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1273 Views
This is getting ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 1140 Views
You are missing my point completely darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 1101 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 1203 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1267 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. Shannow - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 1220 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 784 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 1168 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 786 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? Praziquantel - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 1198 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? Lanfear - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 1062 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? Dreadlord - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1266 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless beetnemesis - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 1156 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 1130 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 1172 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 1148 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 1193 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply Shannow - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 1205 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 762 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. Shannow - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 1040 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 1168 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... Shannow - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 1060 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 1212 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. Shannow - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 1181 Views
Are you kidding me? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1305 Views
Sure you can darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 1201 Views
Re: Sure you can DomA - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1193 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 1147 Views
Oops, typo! darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 1185 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 1136 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 1067 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 1018 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 1139 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 1218 Views
Forkroot in every case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 1137 Views
No! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 1128 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 1154 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 1126 Views
Not going to argue this with you. darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 1075 Views
Your own example disproved your point... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 1191 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 1093 Views
Enough! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 1151 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 749 Views
What a brilliant argument! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 1161 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 1103 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 1191 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 1198 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 1168 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 1150 Views
Excuse me? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 1213 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 1159 Views
??? Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1256 Views
2 middling sisters darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 1189 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 1094 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 1125 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 1163 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 1096 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 1107 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 1130 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 1054 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 1169 Views
gotcha *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 717 Views
Better evidence? LOL! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 1140 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 1145 Views
Exactly *NM* Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 1095 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 1054 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 1179 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 1058 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 1178 Views
Indeed Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1232 Views
Rand is sort of a special case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 1098 Views
Regarding Mesaana... Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 1129 Views
You continue to mix two things darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 1057 Views
No Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1296 Views
You are mistaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 1143 Views
Yes she did Darius! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 1067 Views
Yet there is no duel darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 1076 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1298 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 1092 Views
It's irrelevant DomA - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 1163 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 1134 Views
Daigian Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 1140 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 1162 Views
You missed my point Sidious - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 1083 Views
Re: You missed my point DomA - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 1191 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 1111 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 1089 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 991 Views
Re: Sure you can Tor - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1225 Views
Care to explain this... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 1044 Views
Indeed Tor - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1248 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 1100 Views
Well duh. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 1222 Views
Incorrect. Shannow - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 1203 Views
No fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 1187 Views
Re: No Tor - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 1157 Views
That depends... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 1025 Views
Re: That depends... Tor - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1582 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 1153 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 1203 Views
It matters. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 1175 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 994 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case Tor - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 1200 Views
You must tell me of this special math... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 1071 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 1130 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 1210 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1499 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 1164 Views
Re: Why? Tor - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1475 Views
Well... Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 1199 Views
Re: Well... DomA - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 1180 Views
Wow. Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1206 Views
Re: Wow. DomA - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1229 Views
Some points Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1275 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 1118 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid DomA - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 990 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 1213 Views
Agreed Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 1257 Views
probably darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 1111 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power DomA - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 1114 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 1140 Views
Indeed... DomA - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 1095 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1344 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Lanfear - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 1153 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 1192 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really Lanfear - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1522 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1270 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Tor - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1579 Views
Disregard this post *NM* Tor - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 980 Views
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